Do you want me to dumb this down for you, Drich? Drop a ball from a great height. Watch how the ball gains speed the nearer it gets to the ground. This is called the acceleration of gravity.

(August 30, 2014 at 2:50 pm)Baqal Wrote: Do you want me to dumb this down for you, Drich? Drop a ball from a great height. Watch how the ball gains speed the nearer it gets to the ground. This is called the acceleration of gravity.

Does someone want to tell him?

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(August 30, 2014 at 2:42 pm)Chuck Wrote: Drippy, drippy, drippy. What a dumb, ignorant overreaching ass you are, and how easily you think you can bluster past people who don't think Jesus or bible can substantiate for time actually spent learning the foundations of science of understanding of real world.

You should know Wikipedia works very hard to dumb itself down to a level that people merely a few thousand times smarter and more educated than you, ie no smarter than a reasonably sober high school dropout, would have a shot at quoting it in something like a correct context.

For real understanding, you would need a text book calculated for education, and the book is not the one only I can see. You would have seen it if you valued a real education more than your bible, and had taken a real math or physics class in a moderately dutiful high school, dumfuck.

Unlike what you might think, most people on this forum do value a real education, and have seen such text books, so I don't need to quote anything to defend elementary concepts in physics. If you can't follow what I am saying, then trash the fucking bible, stop wasting your time with your moronic and moronically inept evangelizing, and go take some classes in math and physics.

Now, where were we, oh, yet. We are talking about the acceleration of gravity. not acceleration of a particular OBJECT tethered on a string, or acceleration of something floating in the air under helium balloon. In other words, acceleration of GRAVITY, dumbass.

The net acceleration of any object is equal to it mass, times the VECTOR SUM of all forces acting on it. Of these forces, gravity is just ONE. By distributive property, net acceleration of any object is equal to the vector sum of separate components of acceleration individually caused by the different forces acting on the object.

Air drag, WHEN AN OBJECT IS MOVING THROUGH THE AIR, dependent on air density, and imposed its own drag force, and it's own acceleration. But If you had the brain of an ameba, you might have realized you force of gravity acts on the object even when an object is instantaneously AT REST in relation to the air, when it is experiencing no drag whatsoever as a result. And force of gravity, causing ACCELERATION OF GRAVITY, is therefore independent of air drag.

Has a few words of the bible fallen out of your head through your ears to make way for this slightly clearer understanding of how one elementary component of how the real world works, drippy?

No? I didn't think so.

I don't have time to go line by line, so I will move to dismiss on the lack of evidence you have yet to provide... Oh and the thing about wiki is their is alway a chain of reference material listed at the bottom of the wiki page. Douche bags like you like to dismiss wiki because it is condensed and the information is centralized, but if one can trace said evidence back through the orginal source the. Wiki becomes a viable tool. Maybe if and when you learn to step up your game a little and provide something more than your unfounded fantasies and back what you say with something, even a wiki page we will continue this conversation. Till then know for someone who says he has no faith you sure do ask people to have faith in you.

Qui pro quoe chuckie qui pro quoe.

You are not, and have never been, capable of providing any informed, educated quid to deserve the slightest quo, you dumb ass.

You do realizing having command of a subject means you know the principles involved and knows how to use them to solve problems, not how to look up answers in Wikipedia, right? No? Of course not, you are a biblical moron beholden to one Bronze Age trac of barbarian myths,

Asking people for a chain of reference for the most basic concepts does not show your intellectual rigor anymore than a demand for a proof of 2+2=4 at a math conference. It shows you are a idiot poseur and not qualified to talk. If you didn't have tge correct conception of resultant, vector addition, force, velocity, and acceleration, and don't know how to calculate each, then go back to high school and repeat 10th grade, if indeed you weren't just socially promoted from the 9th.

You have been told how acceleration due to gravity is calculated both theoretically through formulas and practically through direct observation and repeatable verifiable falsifiable experimentation. This is not faith. You have yet to provide the same sort of thing for your god. Your trying to say it is comes off as very silly.

As to wiki, meh. For that subject it's rather dumbed down. If you think it's a good enough explanation of gravity fine, but those people who work with planes and rockets might find it slightly silly.

(August 30, 2014 at 6:38 pm)Chuck Wrote: You are not, and have never been, capable of providing any informed, educated quid to deserve the slightest quo, you dumb ass.

You do realizing having command of a subject means you know the principles involved and knows how to use them to solve problems, not how to look up answers in Wikipedia, right? No? Of course not, you are a biblical moron beholden to one Bronze Age trac of barbarian myths,

Asking people for a chain of reference for the most basic concepts does not show your intellectual rigor anymore than a demand for a proof of 2+2=4 at a math conference. It shows you are a idiot poseur and not qualified to talk. If you didn't have tge correct conception of resultant, vector addition, force, velocity, and acceleration, and don't know how to calculate each, then go back to high school and repeat 10th grade, if indeed you weren't just socially promoted from the 9th.

so when I ask you to provide evidence to support your arguement, your response is to support it with name calling and insults.. Your a troll chuckie.

Go back to the ninth grade, drippy, before the last liquified remains of what once passed for your brain drips onto your bible.

(August 30, 2014 at 7:28 pm)Natachan Wrote: You have been told how acceleration due to gravity is calculated both theoretically through formulas and practically through direct observation and repeatable verifiable falsifiable experimentation. This is not faith. You have yet to provide the same sort of thing for your god. Your trying to say it is comes off as very silly.

As to wiki, meh. For that subject it's rather dumbed down. If you think it's a good enough explanation of gravity fine, but those people who work with planes and rockets might find it slightly silly.

My company actually works (r&d and as a subcontractor with various sub assemblies) with companies who have equipment in atmo, orbit and even on Mars. I am very familiar with the level of work expected and what is provided.. That is why I provide proof and ask for proof, each and every time something questionable is being discussed.

Because when dealing with precession equipment or when in development/exploring a new concept based on known principles, those principles all must be proofed and accounted for before the new principle can be considered. Again that is why I automatically provide these proofs, and why I have asked the same from you.

Not one of you has answered this challenge. Therefore I determined no other source material outside of wiki is needed.
(Meaning it is very apparent the information needed to be 'dumbed down' as much as possible otherwise their would be no hope of establishing my point.)

Let me guess, your company has a toilet washing contract at the office of a company said to be providing janitorial services to a temp agency said to be providing the receptionist for an warehouse that allegedly owned by NASA. Therefore you are a rocket scientist able to vouch for god, the bible, the fact that everyone at nasa believing in your god, and assert without fear of contradiction by those of with a graduate school education in natural sciences that acceleration GRAVITY depends being on air temperature, citing no less a source than a elementary uneducated misreading by you of a loosely worded article in Wikipedia, Right?




You know, the fact that through its two thousand years Christianity had been advanced by efforts of generations of disingenuous, uneducated, overconfident, impertinent, moronic liars and poseurs like you only serve to place your Jesus and his Christianity further beneath the bottom of the lowest gutter.

And I'm an engineer. Your knowledge of physics is laughable. Every claim you have made on the subject is either wrong or such a gross misunderstanding as to be ridiculous. And quite frankly it's becoming irritating.

You have provided no proof of your god, despite being asked for it. We have now established what constitutes as evidence. You have made the positive claim. You have failed to provide it.

Frankly, I'm done. Provide testable real world proof of your assertions that are independent of your holy book. This is what I ask for.

(August 30, 2014 at 10:14 pm)Natachan Wrote: And I'm an engineer. Your knowledge of physics is laughable. Every claim you have made on the subject is either wrong or such a gross misunderstanding as to be ridiculous. And quite frankly it's becoming irritating.

You have provided no proof of your god, despite being asked for it. We have now established what constitutes as evidence. You have made the positive claim. You have failed to provide it.

Frankly, I'm done. Provide testable real world proof of your assertions that are independent of your holy book. This is what I ask for.

You have provided no proof of your understanding of gravity, despite being asked for it on many different occasions. I have established on many different occasions what constitutes as evidence. You have made a positive claim on many occasions, you have cited your job, your experience on said job, and a mysterious book that just so happens to support what you have said. Even with all of this you have failed to actually provide proof for anything.

Rather what you and your troll buddy chuckie have done is default your efforts to personal insults and attacks. All in response to a request to provide simple proof for what you said..

Also know that no matter how you wish to trivialize and laugh my wiki quotes, or how simple they maybe, they still qualify as evidence in support of what I have said. You in all your pompous glory has failed to do even that.

Which bring us back to my orginal assertion. No matter what you believe their is a measure of faith required to believe it. God simply asks that you take a mustard seeds worth and place it where He tells us to place it.