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RE: Women rights in Islam
November 28, 2013 at 5:03 am
You confuse 'different' with 'equal'. Can you prove that men and women are not equal? No you can't, it's a human social construct. Just because it's written in some sandy book does not prove revelation and does not prove truth, at all. The society that the Qu'ran speaks of does not apply to the 21st century, especially in none desert cultures, therefore none of the inane ramblings of your retarded book bare any relevance to the society of genuinely more enlightened people. We've progressed a lot since that nonsense was dribbled on to those pages, you've just gotta play catch up. The only thing that you have proven in your several month long keyboard crusade is that you are a gullible slave to medieval dogma. If the world looked like your vision of utopia, it would be a truly miserable place indeed.
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RE: Women rights in Islam
November 28, 2013 at 6:39 am
(November 28, 2013 at 4:56 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Even modern science proved otherwise
So it is very logical that men and women should have different roles in the society
Oh this will be fun!
So what scientific studies have you read that say that men and women are not equal and therefore do not deserve the same rights?
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Re: RE: Women rights in Islam
November 28, 2013 at 6:48 am
(November 28, 2013 at 4:56 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Your analogy is not even logical
You base your conclusion on the assumption that women and men are equal, which is not true
Can you prove that? NO
Even modern science proved otherwise
So it is very logical that men and women should have different roles in the society Oh? Do please tell me how I am not equal to a man? I do the same job men do, in a very male dominated industry (and I do it very well, I might add). I was raised by two women, no father around, as an adult I don't live with a man. So clearly, whatever a man is "supposed to" do around the home is stuff we women are perfectly capable of doing.
So what, in your opinion, makes women so inferior to men that we should be covered up like our very existance is shameful, and treated as a commodity to be traded between men? Women are people, not livestock.
Sure there are differences between men and women; women are better at some things, men are better than others. And there's the obvious physical differences in genitals, average height, etc. But nothing that makes us unequal.
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RE: Women rights in Islam
September 1, 2014 at 3:52 pm
(November 28, 2013 at 6:48 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Do please tell me how I am not equal to a man? I do the same job men do, in a very male dominated industry (and I do it very well, I might add). I was raised by two women, no father around, as an adult I don't live with a man. So clearly, whatever a man is "supposed to" do around the home is stuff we women are perfectly capable of doing. Look into any statistics, you will see that some jobs are done better by men, some other jobs are done better by women
Quote:So what, in your opinion, makes women so inferior to men
She is not inferior, just different
Quote:that we should be covered up like our very existance is shameful, and treated as a commodity to be traded between men? Women are people, not livestock.
Covering her up is preventing using it as commodity in ads, magazines, etc. (think)
Quote:Sure there are differences between men and women; women are better at some things, men are better than others. And there's the obvious physical differences in genitals, average height, etc. But nothing that makes us unequal.
As god gave every person different bounties, not one is equal to the other, not only men vs woman, it is rich vs poor, smart vs dump, strong vs weak, young vs old, etc.
God treat people with justice not equality
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RE: Women rights in Islam
September 1, 2014 at 4:08 pm
You've had almost a year to look for studies that back up what you are saying, and yet you didn't answer me.
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RE: Women rights in Islam
September 1, 2014 at 4:21 pm
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RE: Women rights in Islam
September 1, 2014 at 4:32 pm
@ Muslim "Scholar"
Stop necroposting threads.
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RE: Women rights in Islam
September 1, 2014 at 4:40 pm
(September 1, 2014 at 3:52 pm)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (November 28, 2013 at 6:48 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Do please tell me how I am not equal to a man? I do the same job men do, in a very male dominated industry (and I do it very well, I might add). I was raised by two women, no father around, as an adult I don't live with a man. So clearly, whatever a man is "supposed to" do around the home is stuff we women are perfectly capable of doing. Look into any statistics, you will see that some jobs are done better by men, some other jobs are done better by women
Quote:So what, in your opinion, makes women so inferior to men
She is not inferior, just different
Quote:that we should be covered up like our very existance is shameful, and treated as a commodity to be traded between men? Women are people, not livestock.
Covering her up is preventing using it as commodity in ads, magazines, etc. (think)
Quote:Sure there are differences between men and women; women are better at some things, men are better than others. And there's the obvious physical differences in genitals, average height, etc. But nothing that makes us unequal.
As god gave every person different bounties, not one is equal to the other, not only men vs woman, it is rich vs poor, smart vs dump, strong vs weak, young vs old, etc.
God treat people with justice not equality
People are individuals with unique sets of traits. You and your religion treat women as a class. That alone would be wrong, but you assholes ice the cake with misogyny.
Piss off, you immoral moron.
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RE: Women rights in Islam
September 1, 2014 at 6:14 pm
(September 1, 2014 at 3:52 pm)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (November 28, 2013 at 6:48 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Do please tell me how I am not equal to a man? I do the same job men do, in a very male dominated industry (and I do it very well, I might add). I was raised by two women, no father around, as an adult I don't live with a man. So clearly, whatever a man is "supposed to" do around the home is stuff we women are perfectly capable of doing. Look into any statistics, you will see that some jobs are done better by men, some other jobs are done better by women
The lugging shit around jobs, perhaps. Otherwise there's no appreciable difference. In fact, women perform better, and markedly so, on reading and writing though school. The only area they are weaker than makes is in math and science, and the overall performance is not as significant as the difference between girls and boys in other subjects. Women are also on average more educated than men. So your "better at certain jobs" claim only really applies to those lugging stuff around jobs. And I'll grant you that.
Quote:Quote:So what, in your opinion, makes women so inferior to men
She is not inferior, just different
That's the claim all those who subjugate women start with. While we are sexually dimorphism be very careful how you proceed with this.
Quote:Quote:that we should be covered up like our very existance is shameful, and treated as a commodity to be traded between men? Women are people, not livestock.
Covering her up is preventing using it as commodity in ads, magazines, etc. (think)
Which is why countries where women are covered have lower rates of rape and abuse. Oh wait...
Quote:Quote:Sure there are differences between men and women; women are better at some things, men are better than others. And there's the obvious physical differences in genitals, average height, etc. But nothing that makes us unequal.
As god gave every person different bounties, not one is equal to the other, not only men vs woman, it is rich vs poor, smart vs dump, strong vs weak, young vs old, etc.
God treat people with justice not equality
Men and women are equal in most respects. We are a sexually dimorphism species but in most cases the differences are negligible. Women are not possessions, they are people. They should be treated as equal to any male.
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RE: Women rights in Islam
September 1, 2014 at 6:18 pm
(September 1, 2014 at 4:32 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: @Muslim "Scholar"
Stop necroposting threads.
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Psst...he means this, you know.
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