(September 14, 2014 at 4:06 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:

(September 14, 2014 at 4:00 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: No one living today has met men like william shakespeare yet we can understand what he is saying.

Shakespeare never claimed to be anything other than a play write. He didn't, for example, claim to be writing on behalf of a celestial being about commandments relating to man's eternal soul.

Are you familiar with "Brevity is the soul of wit"?

I know william shakespeare was a playright I was trying to convey a point

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(September 14, 2014 at 3:29 pm)Esquilax Wrote:

(September 14, 2014 at 3:06 pm)C4RM5 Wrote:

Because Corinthians and Timothy are completely different books, both are pseudepigraphic and not written by Paul, and the anonymous authors weren't smart enough to consider internal consistency between works?

The Bible does teach about the holy spirit, influencing men in what to write. That is why the Bible is "God's word"

(September 14, 2014 at 4:14 pm)C4RM5 Wrote:

(September 14, 2014 at 4:06 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Shakespeare never claimed to be anything other than a play write. He didn't, for example, claim to be writing on behalf of a celestial being about commandments relating to man's eternal soul.

Are you familiar with "Brevity is the soul of wit"?

I know william shakespeare was a playright I was trying to convey a point

I know you were, hence why I asked whether you'd heard of 'brevity is the soul of wit'?

The issue is comparing the bible to Shakespeare is apples to oranges. Aside from the fact that the English language of the 16th century is pretty well understood to the point where it can be read by even 7 years olds, the bible is supposedly conveying the messages of an as of yet still un-evidenced celestial being.

That being the case it is the only 'word' we have to go on, no? Hence Esqulax's question.

Just incase, brevity is the soul of wit just means don't waste my time. The bible is chock full of inconsistencies and contradictions, yet it's the word of a god. How odd. I've always found it to be very good on allegory, but very thin on factual substance.

(September 14, 2014 at 4:19 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:

(September 14, 2014 at 4:14 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I know william shakespeare was a playright I was trying to convey a point

I know you were, hence why I asked whether you'd heard of 'brevity is the soul of wit'?

The issue is comparing the bible to Shakespeare is apples to oranges. Aside from the fact that the English language of the 16th century is pretty well understood to the point where it can be read by even 7 years olds, the bible is supposedly conveying the messages of an as of yet still un-evidenced celestial being.

That being the case it is the only 'word' we have to go on, no? Hence Esqulax's question.

Just incase, brevity is the soul of wit just means don't waste my time. The bible is chock full of inconsistencies and contradictions, yet it's the word of a god. How odd.

I have never come across a contradiction in the Bible before.

(September 14, 2014 at 4:23 pm)C4RM5 Wrote:

(September 14, 2014 at 4:19 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: I know you were, hence why I asked whether you'd heard of 'brevity is the soul of wit'?

The issue is comparing the bible to Shakespeare is apples to oranges. Aside from the fact that the English language of the 16th century is pretty well understood to the point where it can be read by even 7 years olds, the bible is supposedly conveying the messages of an as of yet still un-evidenced celestial being.

That being the case it is the only 'word' we have to go on, no? Hence Esqulax's question.

Just incase, brevity is the soul of wit just means don't waste my time. The bible is chock full of inconsistencies and contradictions, yet it's the word of a god. How odd.

I have never come across a contradiction in the Bible before.

Maybe you've never read it?

http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

There you go.

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(September 14, 2014 at 4:24 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:

(September 14, 2014 at 4:23 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I have never come across a contradiction in the Bible before.

Maybe you've never read it?

http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

There you go.

That is a long list of opinions.

Oh so yours is, what, by default more correct? Why?

I presume your definition of 'contradiction' is not something that relates to one statement being the polar opposite of another already given?

And you're actually reinforcing the idea that the bible isn't worth the paper it's written on, let alone the word of a celestial being. If the interpretation of a holy book is down entirely to interpretation then what actual good is it?

Remember; don't waste my time. If not even a god is capable of following that very simple instruction, what worth is it?

(September 14, 2014 at 4:31 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Oh so yours is, what, by default more correct? Why?

I presume your definition of 'contradiction' is not something that relates to one statement being the polar opposite of another already given?

And you're actually reinforcing the idea that the bible isn't worth the paper it's written on, let alone the word of a celestial being. If the interpretation of a holy book is down entirely to interpretation then what actual good is it?

Remember; don't waste my time. If not even a god is capable of following that very simple instruction, what worth is it?

How did I reinforce that the Bible is not worth it.

(September 14, 2014 at 4:35 pm)C4RM5 Wrote:

(September 14, 2014 at 4:31 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Oh so yours is, what, by default more correct? Why?

I presume your definition of 'contradiction' is not something that relates to one statement being the polar opposite of another already given?

And you're actually reinforcing the idea that the bible isn't worth the paper it's written on, let alone the word of a celestial being. If the interpretation of a holy book is down entirely to interpretation then what actual good is it?

Remember; don't waste my time. If not even a god is capable of following that very simple instruction, what worth is it?

How did I reinforce that the Bible is not worth it.

You've dismissed the link as 'long list of opinions'. Can an interpretation of the bible be anything other than that?

Why am I spelling this out for you?

(September 14, 2014 at 4:37 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:

(September 14, 2014 at 4:35 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: How did I reinforce that the Bible is not worth it.

You've dismissed the link as 'long list of opinions'. Can an interpretation of the bible be anything other than that?

Why am I spelling this out for you?

I believe you are spelling this out for me because I asked you, secondly it is the only way to communicate on an online fourm.

Any way you can interpret the Bible in your own way, and I can interpret it another. At the end of the day it is down to whether you believe in the Bible or not. My interpretation is from a believers point of view

(September 14, 2014 at 4:43 pm)C4RM5 Wrote:

(September 14, 2014 at 4:37 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: You've dismissed the link as 'long list of opinions'. Can an interpretation of the bible be anything other than that?

Why am I spelling this out for you?

I believe you are spelling this out for me because I asked you, secindly it is the only way to communicate on an online fourm.

Any way you can interpret the Bible in your own way, and I can interpret it another. At the end of the day it is down to whether you believe in the Bible or not. My interpretation is from a believers point of view

Is it? I'm sure, given enough time, we could probably find some believers on here that disagree with your interpretation on any given subjects in the bible. I mean, when was the last time Christianity experiencing a good old fashioned schism?

When confronted with a contradiction from the bible, then, do you just dismiss it out of hand as not a contradiction?