(September 24, 2014 at 11:44 am)whateverist Wrote: Which is to say one can read wisdom into many stories, even the bible.

Yes exactly, even in the Hitler's book Mein Kampf, there is to be found wisdom.

(September 22, 2014 at 11:28 am)Rogue Wrote: To believe in nothing; that's a negative.

We atheist believe in many things, it just happens that neither God nor religion ain't any of them.

(September 24, 2014 at 3:09 am)psychoslice Wrote: I think that Jesus was a tale of someone's imagination, he never existed, but I have to say that there is a beautiful story woven in between the words of his so called story, and that story is whatever is needed by you to understand the deeper meaning of your life.

If that were so I would believe Jesus is God, but I don't. I do have doubts that he existed but just seems to me he did. It matches history. I believe all the bible characters existed. I just think their interpretation of god was wrong simply because they did not understand how weather works.

If any of us lived in that day we would have probably believed the same things.

I am thankful for some science just not the kind that kills people!!!

It is not the fault of Jesus if greedy men used his story to start the Christian religion.

Peter-denied him
Paul-killed them

I don't think these two are trust worthy. They had their own agenda. If Christians had listened to Jesus they would've saved themselves a lot of grief. They didn't and they got killed. They don't and then they do the killing; the hating.

I really don't think the Christians or the church is a portrait of what Jesus taught. In fact I think it is grotesquely disrespectful.

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(September 25, 2014 at 1:54 am)Zidneya Wrote:

(September 22, 2014 at 11:28 am)Rogue Wrote: To believe in nothing; that's a negative.

We atheist believe in many things, it just happens that neither God nor religion ain't any of them.

What do you believe in Zidneya?

(September 25, 2014 at 8:53 am)Rogue Wrote:

(September 25, 2014 at 1:54 am)Zidneya Wrote: We atheist believe in many things, it just happens that neither God nor religion ain't any of them.

What do you believe in Zidneya?

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(September 24, 2014 at 5:42 pm)Rogue Wrote: I like atheist, they don't like me. I relate to it. I once was atheist.

Perhaps you read the wrong "how to be an atheist" brochure. Mine didn't advise me to dislike theists. Granted, I'm a bit lazy and skimmed over some of the wordier sections, but still.

(September 25, 2014 at 8:53 am)Rogue Wrote: I really don't think the Christians or the church is a portrait of what Jesus taught. In fact I think it is grotesquely disrespectful.

I don't really care about that. I just find it rather pointless.

Are you saying, Rogue, that you received special spiritual insight through the character of Jesus by way of what you've been able to read between the lines of the bible? Why does he matter so much to you?

Quote:It matches history.

It matches the "history" written to incorporate the godboy into the story. Nothing more.

Actual history knows nothing of your boy.

(September 24, 2014 at 11:44 am)whateverist Wrote: Which is to say one can read wisdom into many stories, even the bible.

One could unconsciously project one's own wisdom into any story, but the wisdom would still be there regardless of whether one reads the story.

Rogue,
I was reading up about Amos 5, God is not anger at religion but at ritual. The people at the time were giving offerings to God on feast days but living corrupt lives. God would prefer us to be righteous rather than ritual. Any way you cannot pick and choose what parts of the Bible to believe in, the Bible states Jesus' resurrected on the third day. It doesn't say Jesus' died to end tradition it says that Jesus dies so we will not suffer but have enternal life. John3 16. Finally the Bible also states God spoke to people like Moses.

All I am saying is don't quote certain texts out of context from the Bbible as evidence then deny other texts.

(September 25, 2014 at 4:18 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: you cannot pick and choose what parts of the Bible to believe in

Tell that to your fellow Christians. Seems to be a lot of stuff in the Bible that shouldn't be followed today.