(October 6, 2014 at 4:19 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: No. All I asked was where you got the number from. I didn't say it was inaccurate, I was asking for sources. Even if the number was 1%, you're still a fucking monster.

What dictates that I am a monster, just because you say so doesn't mean it will come true, I am not going to become a monster and hide under peoples beds.

(October 6, 2014 at 4:20 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:

(October 6, 2014 at 4:19 pm)ShaMan Wrote: A man who defends the defenseless child should be ashamed but the man who defends a grown woman should not? Wow.

Forcing a rape victim to endure pregnancy and childbirth is not "defending a defenseless child", ShaMan.

Then let her defend herself. That was my point.

Who are you to say that she wouldn't find healing from the incident in carrying and raising a child? Let her decide.

(October 6, 2014 at 4:20 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Without that first gasp of breath, the fetus is unensouled and NOT a living human being.

Willful ignorance of Scripture is blasphemy.

Where does it say this I may ask.

(October 6, 2014 at 3:55 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I belief as soon as an egg is concieved it is a human being.

The incidence of miscarriage (spontaneous abortion) is from 10% to 22% of pregnancies. It increases with the ages of both the mother and the father and rises to over 80% when a woman is over 45.

And that does not include ectopic pregnancies or fertilized eggs that fail to implant in the uterine wall.

Your God would seem to be the world's most accomplished abortionist.

(October 6, 2014 at 4:22 pm)ShaMan Wrote:

(October 6, 2014 at 4:20 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Forcing a rape victim to endure pregnancy and childbirth is not "defending a defenseless child", ShaMan.

Then let her defend herself. That was my point.

Who are you to say that she wouldn't find healing from the incident in carrying and raising a child? Let her decide.

That's the damn point, ShaMan. It's her choice, her decision. Carm is advocating removing the choice from her, and forcing her to have the child.

It is preventing someone from living it is taking away what they haven't yet experienxed.

(October 6, 2014 at 3:57 pm)Chas Wrote:

(October 6, 2014 at 3:55 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I belief as soon as an egg is concieved it is a human being.

That is an opinion not shared by everyone. What makes it a human being?

Science says so

Lol @ Frodo invoking science.

FatandFaithless if you are going to let wveryone have a say the child should at least get a choice, I therefore propose that the child should be born and if they wnat to be brutally murder they can.

The problem with abortions is it makes murder of children to easy, the parent doesn't feel anything towards the child, if the child was aborted after birth there would be a lot less abortion.

(October 6, 2014 at 4:25 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: FatandFaithless if you are going to let wveryone have a say the child should at least get a choice, I therefore propose that the child should be born and if they wnat to be brutally murder they can.

What?