Fortunately I don't have to deal with abortion

(October 9, 2014 at 4:38 pm)DramaQueen Wrote: Fortunately I don't have to deal with abortion

Neither does Carm.

(October 9, 2014 at 4:39 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:

(October 9, 2014 at 4:38 pm)DramaQueen Wrote: Fortunately I don't have to deal with abortion

Neither does Carm.

That's probably why he's so cavalier and confident about having an opinion on it. Ignorance often begets confidence more than knowledge does, especially when it's coupled with a complete lack of accountability or consequences.

(October 9, 2014 at 4:46 pm)Esquilax Wrote:

(October 9, 2014 at 4:39 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Neither does Carm.

That's probably why he's so cavalier and confident about having an opinion on it. Ignorance often begets confidence more than knowledge does, especially when it's coupled with a complete lack of accountability or consequences.

He's made it clear before that even rape victims should have to, by law, go through the pregnancy and childbirth processes. I told him to say that to a woman face to face. Doubt it'll happen.

(October 9, 2014 at 4:15 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: It is they stage that a human being is in before they become a toddler.

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I have also told you a hundred times to stop calling me caramel.

Lets try it this way. What makes a human a human?

Or try this one, when a person is brain dead, is it okay to turn off life support?

Good luck with analogies Jenny, the only one Carm seems to engage with is comparing women who have abortions to Hitler.

I meant I'm not straight. so if I get a partner, we won't have to deal with this issue

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Carm, what's your stance on capital punishment

(October 9, 2014 at 3:45 pm)ShaMan Wrote: @C4RM5...

Give it up pal. Attempting to instruct those bent on destruction and selfishness in the ways of compassion and peace is akin to banging your head against a wall. Let them kill their children if that is what they choose, at least that leaves a few less to carry on the tradition of ignorance.

Wha?? Is this serious right now?

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(October 9, 2014 at 3:48 pm)C4RM5 Wrote:

(October 9, 2014 at 3:45 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Oh my gawds, seriously. I have a permanent dent in my forehead because of this guy.

You still haven't told me why you do not think the Holocaust was murder, stop avoiding my question.

Beat yourself in the head with a dictionary maybe? The holocaust was genocide, but it wasn't murder because the killing wasn't unlawful. It should have been unlawful, it was terrible and horrible and wrong, but it was not murder.

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(October 9, 2014 at 3:49 pm)ShaMan Wrote:

(October 9, 2014 at 3:47 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: ShaMan, I've tried to be patient with you, but please fuck off. Now you're self-righteous and passive-aggressive. Congrats.

Real mature. This is a forum where ideas and opinions are to be freely discussed. If you don't like what I'm saying then you're free to not respond.

Do you think it's mature or respectful to insinuate that pro choice people bent on self destruction and selfishness and they want to kill their children? I don't.

(October 9, 2014 at 4:21 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Okay they are different things but destroying a festus prevents the baby which in my view is still murder.

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It has actually been 31 pages.

You're a Christian.

If that's the case, and everything is the will of god, what's his purpose in causing millions of miscarriages every year?

Far more than humans have ever aborted.

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(October 9, 2014 at 3:47 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:

(October 9, 2014 at 3:45 pm)ShaMan Wrote: @C4RM5...

Give it up pal. Attempting to instruct those bent on destruction and selfishness in the ways of compassion and peace is akin to banging your head against a wall. Let them kill their children if that is what they choose, at least that leaves a few less to carry on the tradition of ignorance.

ShaMan, I've tried to be patient with you, but please fuck off. Now you're self-righteous and passive-aggressive. Congrats.

ETA: not that I feel I need to defend myself, but between my volunteer work and my job, all I do is help people. Selfishness and destruction, my ass.

I wouldn't be as patient as you've been, especially in light of the above statement.

(October 9, 2014 at 3:45 pm)ShaMan Wrote: @C4RM5...

Give it up pal. Attempting to instruct those bent on destruction and selfishness in the ways of compassion and peace is akin to banging your head against a wall. Let them kill their children if that is what they choose, at least that leaves a few less to carry on the tradition of ignorance.

So it's MORE compassionate to scream at girls walking to a clinic and to try to give them nightmares and calling them murderers and satanists bound for hell???

Interesting..

What about the zygotes are so precious to you? If the zygote was from another overpopulated animal would you be so fired up about it? What triggers your compassion? Do you feel the same compassion for imperfect zygotes? What about the grotesquely deformed and severely brain damaged. Do you care equally about them too?
If a woman has 12 frozen zygotes, is she a murderer if she doesn't implant all 12?

It sounds like we men just can't trust women to make any decisions about their lady parts..