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Abortion not allowed
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H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: Abortion not allowed
October 12, 2014 at 10:11 am
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(October 11, 2014 at 6:58 pm)Chas Wrote:Indeed. A fertilised egg which has begun the human life cycle.(October 11, 2014 at 6:32 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: No. There's a distinction to be made between human being and person. (October 11, 2014 at 6:58 pm)Chas Wrote:Good.Quote:Personhood draws in all sorts of other considerations, which is a deliberate attempt to muddy the discussion. (October 11, 2014 at 6:58 pm)Chas Wrote:Not according to a consensus of scientific opinion. Other animals can be sentient and self aware. Only a few aren't sentient. Oysters I believe feel no pain.Quote:That is: sentience, self awareness. (October 11, 2014 at 6:58 pm)Chas Wrote:You don't see how it's a person. It isn't. You don't see how it's sentient or self aware. It isn't.Quote:Conception is the beginning of the human life cycle. A human is created at that point. (October 11, 2014 at 6:58 pm)Chas Wrote: Did you know that between 11% and 22% of all pregnancies miscarry? I know very well that a percentage of pregnancies miscarry, yes. Human life in progress from conception is still human life no matter what becomes of it. Wikipedia Wrote:The [person] category may exclude some human entities in prenatal development, and those with extreme mental impairment. Personhood is up for a debate, and I'm not interested in it. Putting that aside, we still have the problem that terminating pregnancy is always terminating a human life, as defined. The weight of the moral responsibility is greatly reduced from inflicting suffering to a sentient entity, but it is there nonetheless, and felt by the parents. Any feelings of that nature have to be dealt with, and we use ethics for that purpose.  (October 11, 2014 at 5:04 pm)C4RM5 Wrote:(October 11, 2014 at 3:09 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Yeah...you and assholes like you are walking proof of that! You don't know any of us. Who are you to judge us? Simply because we question your beliefs, which by your own admission you have without any justification what so ever except that you want to beleive it's real? Get over yourself.  RE: Abortion not allowed
October 12, 2014 at 10:55 am
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(October 12, 2014 at 10:15 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:(October 11, 2014 at 5:04 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: And you are walking prove of how much atheists care for others. By what rights was I judged or have you failed to notice that. I know I have no right to judge you but by posts directed at me I get a good example. Secondly I have already explained with examples that you don't need facts to have a belief, I have now even made it my signature. (October 12, 2014 at 7:52 am)DramaQueen Wrote: Carm, to be informed about abortion, you have to be informed in biology. I am perfectly aware of what abortion is, thank you. (October 12, 2014 at 4:18 am)Tonus Wrote:(October 12, 2014 at 4:08 am)C4RM5 Wrote: You don't need facts to belief in something that is why it is called a belief and not a fact.Religion in a nutshell. Exactly that is what religion is, it is now my signature, I don't need facts because God has revealed himself to me and no matter how many facts I give you, you still will seek to disprove it. (October 12, 2014 at 4:20 am)Esquilax Wrote:(October 12, 2014 at 4:08 am)C4RM5 Wrote: You don't need facts to belief in something that is why it is called a belief and not a fact. No not at all, I believe I can sit in a chair without it breaking, I don't have any facts does that mean it is not true?  (October 12, 2014 at 10:55 am)C4RM5 Wrote: Secondly I have already explained with examples that you don't need facts to have a belief, I have now even made it my signature. (October 12, 2014 at 4:46 am)Losty Wrote: @Carm You don't need facts to believe in something, but if you know the facts then the only rational option is to adjust your beliefs according to the facts. (October 12, 2014 at 4:30 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(October 11, 2014 at 12:28 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: There is a big difference between a belief and factual information. No I am talking about a chair I have never sat in before. 
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Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (October 12, 2014 at 10:55 am)C4RM5 Wrote: Secondly I have already explained with examples that you don't need facts to have a belief, I have now even made it my signature. And you see this as a virtue, as something that is desirable and should be admired in others? That tells us all we need to know about you.
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'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech RE: Abortion not allowed
October 12, 2014 at 11:06 am
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(October 12, 2014 at 11:03 am)Losty Wrote:(October 12, 2014 at 10:55 am)C4RM5 Wrote: Secondly I have already explained with examples that you don't need facts to have a belief, I have now even made it my signature. Why would I change a belief that I belief in whole heartly because someone comes up with some 'facts' saying it is wrong. (October 12, 2014 at 11:04 am)Bad Wolf Wrote:(October 12, 2014 at 10:55 am)C4RM5 Wrote: Secondly I have already explained with examples that you don't need facts to have a belief, I have now even made it my signature. Yes it sums up me perfectly, thank you 
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