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Abortion not allowed
RE: Abortion not allowed
They were commanded by God to do so.

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Confusedhock:
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Confused Fall

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(October 12, 2014 at 4:25 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: They were commanded by God to do so.

Well, I would say they used their deity's name to justify their invasion of someone elses' lands and the mass murder of their people.

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like ISIS
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I lot of Muslim officials from of countries say they don't support Isis's cause.

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(October 12, 2014 at 4:19 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I trust the Bible which says no human should take away a life from someone else.

Shall we see what the Bible says? It never prohibits abortion, nor calls it murder. It does talk about the penalty for hitting a woman hard enough to cause her to miscarry:

"If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise." Exodus 21:22-25

So making a woman give birth prematurely, but not causing her serious injury is a an offense for a fine, and injuring her is eye, for eye, tooth for tooth. That's suggestive about the difference between an woman and a fetus ain't it? Notice too that the fine is given to the husband, not the wife or the fetus should it survive.

And there's Numbers which says to me that if a woman is a accused of adultery she should be given a drink which will cause an abortion and subsequent bareness if she is unfaithful and cause her no harm otherwise.

"And when he has made her drink the water, then, if she has defiled herself and has broken faith with her husband, the water that brings the curse shall enter into her and cause bitter pain, and her womb shall swell, and her thigh shall fall away, and the woman shall become a curse among her people. But if the woman has not defiled herself and is clean, then she shall be free and shall conceive children. " Numbers 5:27-28

Pretty clear the OT god doesn't consider fetuses persons, doesn't it?
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Where does it say in any of those quotes that a foetus wasn't a person

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(October 12, 2014 at 4:19 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I trust the Bible which says no human should take away a life from someone else.

Really? Have we been reading the same bible? Because i'm pretty sure it says the opposite. Kill people who work on the sabbath, burn witches at the stake, stone homosexuals, kill atheists and the entire town they are in, kill whomever dares to plant two different crops side by side, kill whomever dares to wear clothes made of two different materials. Any of these ring a bell? What is your take on these?
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I am not in a position to question God.

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