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RE: Jews and the old testament
October 18, 2014 at 5:56 am
(October 18, 2014 at 5:48 am)Aractus Wrote: The parable of the good Samaritan is one of the best moral teachings and is not an addition.
Until you consider that jesus was using the Samaritan to signify the lowest of the low in society. But yet it is a good story. So is the parable of the manager and story of the man that came to jesus with a denarii. In fact I'd even be willing to believe the last one happened, as there was lots of cultists like jesus at the time.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Jews and the old testament
October 18, 2014 at 6:01 am
No, he would have used "lepers" to signify the lowest of the low. He was using an example of people who the then-contemporary Palestinian Jews considered to be their mortal enemies. It'd be like saying "the good Canaanite", lol.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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RE: Jews and the old testament
October 18, 2014 at 6:12 am
(October 18, 2014 at 6:01 am)Aractus Wrote: No, he would have used "lepers" to signify the lowest of the low. He was using an example of people who the then-contemporary Palestinian Jews considered to be their mortal enemies. It'd be like saying "the good Canaanite", lol.
My point still stands, he was using the racism of his day to make his point,
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Jews and the old testament
October 18, 2014 at 6:16 am
Really? That's what you take from the passage?
He was using the example of - hey you know those people called the "Samaritans" who you hate and think are just the worse, well they can do good too... If anything he's teaching tolerance not racism.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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RE: Jews and the old testament
October 18, 2014 at 6:19 am
(October 18, 2014 at 6:16 am)Aractus Wrote: Really? That's what you take from the passage?
He was using the example of - hey you know those people called the "Samaritans" who you hate and think are just the worse, well they can do good too... If anything he's teaching tolerance not racism.
Nitpick: worst*
Yes and no, he is using the low opinion of samaritans t show if a samaritan can do good anyone can. Still may be forced to somewhat agree here.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Jews and the old testament
October 18, 2014 at 6:39 am
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
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RE: Jews and the old testament
October 18, 2014 at 6:46 am
LOL I just realised we're debating Jesus in a thread on the O.T.!
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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RE: Jews and the old testament
October 18, 2014 at 6:48 am
(October 18, 2014 at 6:46 am)Aractus Wrote: LOL I just realised we're debating Jesus in a thread on the O.T.!
Because we are cool like that.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Jews and the old testament
October 18, 2014 at 8:20 am
(October 18, 2014 at 5:01 am)Luckie Wrote: Its pretty clear that not a single stroke or letter should pass from the law, Orthodox Christian. (forgive me but I haven't encountered your version of Christianity before). I am slightly affronted that you seem to believe we all disbelieve Christianity for non reasons. What say you to Min's post? Did you read my post? Jesus makes it abundantly clear that you're wrong, sir. How about addressing these two that I already quoted?
"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17 NAB)
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17 NAB)
Did he or did he not, when Pharisees called him out for not washing his hands before eating, say in response, that since they haven't killed their own kids they should shut it?
“He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” (Matthew 15:4-7)
He also says it here: Mark.7:9-13 "Whoever curses father or mother shall die" (Mark 7:10 NAB)
Me thinks luckie is closet member of biblical Christianity.
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RE: Jews and the old testament
October 18, 2014 at 8:22 am
Nah, we're just proving we can read the bible just fine without you Drich.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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