Sure, it's a human trait to see patterns in everything, whether or not there are actually any patterns.

(November 1, 2014 at 1:10 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:

(November 1, 2014 at 1:07 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Fuck off.

There's nothing wrong with that picture that a speeding garbage truck couldn't take care of.

I was going to say "anyone caught holding such a sign must be stripped of citizenship and deported immediately. If no other country will take them they must be shot." But your solution is far more expedient.

(November 2, 2014 at 12:44 pm)whateverist Wrote: I was going to say "anyone caught holding such a sign must be stripped of citizenship and deported immediately. If no other country will take them they must be shot." But your solution is far more expedient.

As a citizen of the Netherlands who interestingly has not seen this picture before, I disagree. Freedom of speech is to be honored, however great the offense. Censorship will lead only to more outrage.

I know, or at least I assume you were joking, but it's quite an important topic.

A thin coating of joking covering a massive amount of resentment toward immigrants who want to 'join' a new country only to make it over in their own image. They should just stay home and enjoy the fruits of society that already reflects their values.

Well they have a banner saying "Freedom can go to hell", so if they don't want freedom, who are we to impose it upon them?

(November 2, 2014 at 5:26 am)AtlasS Wrote: It's just this..if you try to convince me that something with the size of the universe, along with micro organisms -like us compared to its size- with such complication like the human biology, along with discoveries stating that the full size of the universe is HUGE but there are billions of huge universes too,

All of that, holds no evidence of a creator, then..sorry, we go our separate paths. I just simply know that something so big can never ever be without a creator. Just like your current computer OS . It's impossible to say "well, there is no enough evidence that humans made it".

If we assume for the sake of discussion your Designer, we must acknowledge his incompetence. From the appendix, to the human retina, to susceptibility of the genetic code to malignant mutation, the spine, and many other examples -- we can paraphrase Hume and wonder if we are not the product of an infant godling experimenting with his newly-discovered powers, much like a human child taking his tottering first steps?

Because let's face it, his bioengineering skills are desperately wanting an understanding of efficient physics and chemistry.

(November 2, 2014 at 1:05 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: Well they have a banner saying "Freedom can go to hell", so if they don't want freedom, who are we to impose it upon them?

You mean like when a prisoner is released and they've been institutionalised.

The thing to do is integrate them back into society not throw them back in prison.

Nope I mean don't force our freedom values on them. If they want to be part of a different society, don't forcefully integrate them into ours.

(November 2, 2014 at 5:04 am)AtlasS Wrote: Of course you have. That's why I can't make a nuclear fission inside my kitchen. To witness a physical law executing, somebody must call the function let alone, somebody must create the law in the first place, don't he ?
X+X means nothing in C++ unless the maker programmed it to accept such value.

Why do you think reasserting the same undemonstrated arguments from analogy counts as justification? Just repeating yourself doesn't get us anywhere.

Quote:I don't know, but I think believing in god never stopped somebody from "turning to reality".

If you believe in god, having no good reason as you do, you are turning away from reality by definition, and toward fantasy.

(November 2, 2014 at 12:58 pm)whateverist Wrote: A thin coating of joking covering a massive amount of resentment toward immigrants who want to 'join' a new country only to make it over in their own image. They should just stay home and enjoy the fruits of society that already reflects their values.

Exactly. I'd support deportation for anyone marching like that here.