RE: The point to Human Existence? Role of Emotions.
November 9, 2014 at 9:25 am
(This post was last modified: November 9, 2014 at 10:22 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 7, 2014 at 6:26 pm)LostDays Wrote: Suppose there were nothing.
Okay, supposed.
Quote: Then there would be no laws; for laws, after all, are something.
Right, no laws, because there's nothing.
Quote:If there were no laws, then everything would be permitted.
Except that there is no "everything" in nothing, nor are there permissions.......
Quote: If everything were permitted, then nothing would be forbidden.
see above
Quote:. So if there were nothing, nothing would be forbidden.
If there were nothing, there would be nothing. No permissions, nothing forbidden, no forbidding, nothing...why can't people stick to nothing when they invoke nothing? Godammnit...why were we asked to suppose nothing if there was going to be a whole hell of alot of somethings.."everything" in fact?
Quote:Thus nothing is self-forbidding. Therefore, there must be something. - Prologue.
That "therefore" has been grossly misused. In any case...I'm not so sure this argument is required to demonstrate that something exists, or that any argument is required to do so (
therefore: failing to have done so seems no great loss). The last piece of this, btw, seems like a linguistic flair/tick. "Nothing
would be forbidden"/"
Nothing is forbidden/self forbidding. A two step dance happens here but it wouldn't be required if the two statements were equivalent. There's a break at "Thus" (where we alter both what were are discussing and how were are discussing it - very subtle) which might explain why I find this unsatisfying. To put it bluntly...this seems like a pun, not an argument.
I think the "therefore" would be put to better use as preceding some concern as to whether or not the word/concept "nothing" suffers from linguistic difficulties when it is expressed in a language made out of "somethings" and descriptors of "somethings"......my two cents.
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