(November 23, 2014 at 10:49 am)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote:

(November 23, 2014 at 8:17 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: Hey, did you get around to posting this evidence you claim to have, yet?

No. , not yet. You see.....Im not like the other Theists who you run across --- I have adopted a new way of dispensing with the scientific evidence to Atheists. But it requires the atheist being qualified to receive it before I dispense it since precious few professed atheists really want the evidence / precious few wouldn't allow the evidence to have any effect on their apriori-commitment to atheism / precious few atheists arent willing to surrender their life to anyone else but themselves even if there was a Creator for the universe / precious few professed atheists aren't interested in the real truth and instead would never cash in their pseudo science beliefs / and most atheists enjoy playing a charade game with themselves as well as with Theists who are sincerely concerned about their eternity.

That said, I have an official QUALIFICATION TEST FOR ATHEISTS consisting of a few questions to be answered which are an absolute necessary mandate to determine IF the professed Atheist should get the evidence.

Now, the typical whining reply when I declare the above to an atheist is :' Awwwwe , you just don't have the scientific evidence to show us ' (and other similar hostile guff) . If the Person wishes to go with that then that is fine as I take a pass on them and encourage them to quit being idle about the most vital issue ever and to do a personal google investigation themselves for the evidences since its readily available anyway. For the Atheist who passes my Qualification Test, then it is that person who gets the evidence from myself which includes Me spending as much time with the Individual as he/she requires. But , what I refuse to do is to enter into a futile exchange with your all too common Atheist who is a complete time waster , not interested in truth , and is only interested in playing the charade of an atheistic worldview to bolster the many immoral lifestyles that compete for his/her enslavement. (aka : Total autonomy to live as one likes) .

This is my newest approach and its either my way or the Google- it -for -yourself Highway. Regards.

And this is my not so new approach to people like you.

(November 23, 2014 at 10:49 am)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: No. , not yet. You see.....Im not like the other Theists who you run across --- I have adopted a new way of dispensing with the scientific evidence to Atheists. But it requires the atheist being qualified to receive it before I dispense it since precious few professed atheists really want the evidence / precious few wouldn't allow the evidence to have any effect on their apriori-commitment to atheism / precious few atheists arent willing to surrender their life to anyone else but themselves even if there was a Creator for the universe / precious few professed atheists aren't interested in the real truth and instead would never cash in their pseudo science beliefs / and most atheists enjoy playing a charade game with themselves as well as with Theists who are sincerely concerned about their eternity.

So basically you'll only post what you have if you're sure people will agree with you.

That doesn't sound like a path to truth to me. That sounds like a way for you to not have any evidence at all, do no work, yet still sit here in imagined superiority and crow about how dumb we atheists are. How about instead of clinging to your presuppositions that the only reason we won't outright agree with you is because of some character flaw on our part, something you literally could not know as you don't know any of us, you just present your evidence and let the chips fall where they may?

Quote:That said, I have an official QUALIFICATION TEST FOR ATHEISTS consisting of a few questions to be answered which are an absolute necessary mandate to determine IF the professed Atheist should get the evidence.

How very imperious of you. You know, real truth doesn't require a check beforehand to see if the person it's getting told to is ready to presuppose that it's true.

Quote:Now, the typical whining reply when I declare the above to an atheist is :' Awwwwe , you just don't have the scientific evidence to show us ' (and other similar hostile guff) . If the Person wishes to go with that then that is fine as I take a pass on them and encourage them to quit being idle about the most vital issue ever and to do a personal google investigation themselves for the evidences since its readily available anyway. For the Atheist who passes my Qualification Test, then it is that person who gets the evidence from myself which includes Me spending as much time with the Individual as he/she requires. But , what I refuse to do is to enter into a futile exchange with your all too common Atheist who is a complete time waster , not interested in truth , and is only interested in playing the charade of an atheistic worldview to bolster the many immoral lifestyles that compete for his/her enslavement. (aka : Total autonomy to live as one likes) .

Read: "Unless you're ready to agree with everything I say out of hand, I'm just going to assume you'll never agree with me at all, even if I'm right!"

Standard theistic claptrap.

Quote:This is my newest approach and its either my way or the Google- it -for -yourself Highway. Regards.

Modhat on: We have a thing called Rule One here, newbie. It requires that you actually contribute to the discussions we have here, if you wish to stay. If you're just going to play these evasive, passive aggressive games, you will be reported, and the mod team will sanction you.

You agreed to play by the rules of this forum when you joined up. If you proceed to break them now, that would be lying, which I'm fairly sure is against your religion, but one thing is certain: we will not be playing this your way, nor will "Google it!" suffice as a proper advancement of discussion. You have been warned.

(November 23, 2014 at 11:44 am)coldwx Wrote:

(November 23, 2014 at 10:49 am)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: No. , not yet. You see.....Im not like the other Theists who you run across --- I have adopted a new way of dispensing with the scientific evidence to Atheists. But it requires the atheist being qualified to receive it before I dispense it since precious few professed atheists really want the evidence / precious few wouldn't allow the evidence to have any effect on their apriori-commitment to atheism / precious few atheists arent willing to surrender their life to anyone else but themselves even if there was a Creator for the universe / precious few professed atheists aren't interested in the real truth and instead would never cash in their pseudo science beliefs / and most atheists enjoy playing a charade game with themselves as well as with Theists who are sincerely concerned about their eternity.

That said, I have an official QUALIFICATION TEST FOR ATHEISTS consisting of a few questions to be answered which are an absolute necessary mandate to determine IF the professed Atheist should get the evidence.

Now, the typical whining reply when I declare the above to an atheist is :' Awwwwe , you just don't have the scientific evidence to show us ' (and other similar hostile guff) . If the Person wishes to go with that then that is fine as I take a pass on them and encourage them to quit being idle about the most vital issue ever and to do a personal google investigation themselves for the evidences since its readily available anyway. For the Atheist who passes my Qualification Test, then it is that person who gets the evidence from myself which includes Me spending as much time with the Individual as he/she requires. But , what I refuse to do is to enter into a futile exchange with your all too common Atheist who is a complete time waster , not interested in truth , and is only interested in playing the charade of an atheistic worldview to bolster the many immoral lifestyles that compete for his/her enslavement. (aka : Total autonomy to live as one likes) .

This is my newest approach and its either my way or the Google- it -for -yourself Highway. Regards.

And this is my not so new approach to people like you.

Here is the Qualification Test if you think you are serious and honest enough to take it :

_______________________________________

Hello, and thank you for your consideration of completing the following QUALIFICATION TEST FOR ATHEISTS to determine if you are worthy of receiving the scientific evidences for our personal theistic Creator (God) and objective (non circular) historical evidences for Jesus Christ including his resurrection thereby proving his authenticity as the Son of God .




You may ask why all the hoopla just go get the evidence ? As a lover of Gods Word which says :" Don't throw pearls before swine " ... meaning don't waste your time giving the truth to people who don't want it really because theyd rather maintain their own apriori-commitment to their religion of Humanism because it offers maximized indulgence in any and all Lifestyles desired . So, unless you as an Atheist truly have the desire for truth backed up by being willing to completely surrender your life to where the truth leads (which precious few atheists are ever willing to do)...then there is no good reason for myself to partake in lessons of futility which I have already learned several times over from the past.




So, if you are still willing to move forward, please answer the following as honestly, truthfully, factually, cogently, and succinctly as you possibly can . Upon review of your answers, I shall advise you the outcome . Thank you.




1. How did you come to want to believe in an atheistic worldview / origins which traditionally has Materialism and Naturalism being responsible for such NON-material entities such as freewill, personality, reason, logic, discernment , abstract thinking, et al... when it is absurd to have such non material realities coming from atoms ?




2. When you closely and diligently examine the Human Anatomy , what is it about that which looks like the product of mindless, random, chaotic , accidents upon compilations of accidents void of any intelligent design and input ?




3. If you believe the Universe or the Human Anatomy could be created better (since you believe its just the random product of atoms and forces without any intelligent design)....how would YOU make it better than what it is ? And do you believe you could make it better without applying any personal interjection of any kind since the present Universe 'wasn't personally brought about' according to you ?




4. Do you believe it is possible to determine when something requires a personal Designer/Creator for something down here on earth even if you never see or meet such a Designer / Creator ? What criteria would you require for admitting something took a Mind behind the construction of something --- how does something that is intelligently designed look to you when you see it ? What are some of its attributes ?




5. Why don't you think Intelligent Design should be taught in public schools across the nation (world) since there are tons of examples of intelligent designed things here on earth which aren't religious oriented or motivated ? Science is based on natural AND intelligent causes and the discovery thereof, so, why not bring both to the classroom and let the Student decide which cause is more likely for the Universe and other related things ?




6. Do you believe you have a dark side to your personality/character which is universally called Sin ? Do you feel disgusted with the self serving agendas that may have become part of your ongoing life which might include the using of others for your temporary gain or enjoyment or doing things which you know are wrong yet you do them anyways ? Do you see something within yourself that is highly narcissistic and could you point to something in your life which would be rightly called lowlife living (immoral, unethical behavior , etc...) with an accompanying attitude of not caring in the least ? If so, what do u attribute this chosen lifestyle - attitude toward , and, how do you justify doing it ?




7. Are you 'an Atheist' because you don't see any evidence in the least for a personal theistic Creator, or, are you an 'Atheist' because you desire to be your own 'god' calling your own shots in life..... as my 71 year old 'Atheist' friend, Helen, admitted to me (verbatim) lately after 20 minutes of dialogue about God at a local Starbucks ?




8. If you were convinced beyond any doubt that a personal theistic Creator is absolutely necessary for the personal, intelligent-based, information-laden entities left over from the Universe coming into existence .... WHAT would that mean to you / HOW if any would it change your life knowing God would own you and you would be morally responsible to him at a future date --- would it cause you to move closer to him in personal relationship / and if it would make no difference..........WHY would this be your final action ?




9. What bad experience have you had in a Christian Church or in Christian circles ? How has this experienced influenced your desire to be 'an Atheist' ?




10 . What do you think would be your reaction if after you died, you were ushered into the presence of the Universes Creator where you were shown an accurate depiction of your earthly life spent giving God the finger overtly or covertly because you thought you were more important ?




Thank you for your time. Ill get back to you shortly to let you know if you qualified . If you find this Qualification Test an affront to yourself, there is no need to write back and whine , complain , or hurl insults because such a response is never considered . Thanks for your participation. Dave.

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(November 23, 2014 at 11:44 am)coldwx Wrote:

(November 23, 2014 at 10:49 am)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: No. , not yet. You see.....Im not like the other Theists who you run across --- I have adopted a new way of dispensing with the scientific evidence to Atheists. But it requires the atheist being qualified to receive it before I dispense it since precious few professed atheists really want the evidence / precious few wouldn't allow the evidence to have any effect on their apriori-commitment to atheism / precious few atheists arent willing to surrender their life to anyone else but themselves even if there was a Creator for the universe / precious few professed atheists aren't interested in the real truth and instead would never cash in their pseudo science beliefs / and most atheists enjoy playing a charade game with themselves as well as with Theists who are sincerely concerned about their eternity.

That said, I have an official QUALIFICATION TEST FOR ATHEISTS consisting of a few questions to be answered which are an absolute necessary mandate to determine IF the professed Atheist should get the evidence.

Now, the typical whining reply when I declare the above to an atheist is :' Awwwwe , you just don't have the scientific evidence to show us ' (and other similar hostile guff) . If the Person wishes to go with that then that is fine as I take a pass on them and encourage them to quit being idle about the most vital issue ever and to do a personal google investigation themselves for the evidences since its readily available anyway. For the Atheist who passes my Qualification Test, then it is that person who gets the evidence from myself which includes Me spending as much time with the Individual as he/she requires. But , what I refuse to do is to enter into a futile exchange with your all too common Atheist who is a complete time waster , not interested in truth , and is only interested in playing the charade of an atheistic worldview to bolster the many immoral lifestyles that compete for his/her enslavement. (aka : Total autonomy to live as one likes) .

This is my newest approach and its either my way or the Google- it -for -yourself Highway. Regards.

And this is my not so new approach to people like you.

Here is the Qualification Test if you think you are serious and honest enough to take it :

_______________________________________

Hello, and thank you for your consideration of completing the following QUALIFICATION TEST FOR ATHEISTS to determine if you are worthy of receiving the scientific evidences for our personal theistic Creator (God) and objective (non circular) historical evidences for Jesus Christ including his resurrection thereby proving his authenticity as the Son of God .




You may ask why all the hoopla just go get the evidence ? As a lover of Gods Word which says :" Don't throw pearls before swine " ... meaning don't waste your time giving the truth to people who don't want it really because theyd rather maintain their own apriori-commitment to their religion of Humanism because it offers maximized indulgence in any and all Lifestyles desired . So, unless you as an Atheist truly have the desire for truth backed up by being willing to completely surrender your life to where the truth leads (which precious few atheists are ever willing to do)...then there is no good reason for myself to partake in lessons of futility which I have already learned several times over from the past.




So, if you are still willing to move forward, please answer the following as honestly, truthfully, factually, cogently, and succinctly as you possibly can . Upon review of your answers, I shall advise you the outcome . Thank you.




1. How did you come to want to believe in an atheistic worldview / origins which traditionally has Materialism and Naturalism being responsible for such NON-material entities such as freewill, personality, reason, logic, discernment , abstract thinking, et al... when it is absurd to have such non material realities coming from atoms ?




2. When you closely and diligently examine the Human Anatomy , what is it about that which looks like the product of mindless, random, chaotic , accidents upon compilations of accidents void of any intelligent design and input ?




3. If you believe the Universe or the Human Anatomy could be created better (since you believe its just the random product of atoms and forces without any intelligent design)....how would YOU make it better than what it is ? And do you believe you could make it better without applying any personal interjection of any kind since the present Universe 'wasn't personally brought about' according to you ?




4. Do you believe it is possible to determine when something requires a personal Designer/Creator for something down here on earth even if you never see or meet such a Designer / Creator ? What criteria would you require for admitting something took a Mind behind the construction of something --- how does something that is intelligently designed look to you when you see it ? What are some of its attributes ?




5. Why don't you think Intelligent Design should be taught in public schools across the nation (world) since there are tons of examples of intelligent designed things here on earth which aren't religious oriented or motivated ? Science is based on natural AND intelligent causes and the discovery thereof, so, why not bring both to the classroom and let the Student decide which cause is more likely for the Universe and other related things ?




6. Do you believe you have a dark side to your personality/character which is universally called Sin ? Do you feel disgusted with the self serving agendas that may have become part of your ongoing life which might include the using of others for your temporary gain or enjoyment or doing things which you know are wrong yet you do them anyways ? Do you see something within yourself that is highly narcissistic and could you point to something in your life which would be rightly called lowlife living (immoral, unethical behavior , etc...) with an accompanying attitude of not caring in the least ? If so, what do u attribute this chosen lifestyle - attitude toward , and, how do you justify doing it ?




7. Are you 'an Atheist' because you don't see any evidence in the least for a personal theistic Creator, or, are you an 'Atheist' because you desire to be your own 'god' calling your own shots in life..... as my 71 year old 'Atheist' friend, Helen, admitted to me (verbatim) lately after 20 minutes of dialogue about God at a local Starbucks ?




8. If you were convinced beyond any doubt that a personal theistic Creator is absolutely necessary for the personal, intelligent-based, information-laden entities left over from the Universe coming into existence .... WHAT would that mean to you / HOW if any would it change your life knowing God would own you and you would be morally responsible to him at a future date --- would it cause you to move closer to him in personal relationship / and if it would make no difference..........WHY would this be your final action ?




9. What bad experience have you had in a Christian Church or in Christian circles ? How has this experienced influenced your desire to be 'an Atheist' ?




10 . What do you think would be your reaction if after you died, you were ushered into the presence of the Universes Creator where you were shown an accurate depiction of your earthly life spent giving God the finger overtly or covertly because you thought you were more important ?




Thank you for your time. Ill get back to you shortly to let you know if you qualified . If you find this Qualification Test an affront to yourself, there is no need to write back and whine , complain , or hurl insults because such a response is never considered . Thanks for your participation. Dave.

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(November 23, 2014 at 12:13 pm)Esquilax Wrote:

(November 23, 2014 at 10:49 am)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: No. , not yet. You see.....Im not like the other Theists who you run across --- I have adopted a new way of dispensing with the scientific evidence to Atheists. But it requires the atheist being qualified to receive it before I dispense it since precious few professed atheists really want the evidence / precious few wouldn't allow the evidence to have any effect on their apriori-commitment to atheism / precious few atheists arent willing to surrender their life to anyone else but themselves even if there was a Creator for the universe / precious few professed atheists aren't interested in the real truth and instead would never cash in their pseudo science beliefs / and most atheists enjoy playing a charade game with themselves as well as with Theists who are sincerely concerned about their eternity.

So basically you'll only post what you have if you're sure people will agree with you.

That doesn't sound like a path to truth to me. That sounds like a way for you to not have any evidence at all, do no work, yet still sit here in imagined superiority and crow about how dumb we atheists are. How about instead of clinging to your presuppositions that the only reason we won't outright agree with you is because of some character flaw on our part, something you literally could not know as you don't know any of us, you just present your evidence and let the chips fall where they may?

Quote:That said, I have an official QUALIFICATION TEST FOR ATHEISTS consisting of a few questions to be answered which are an absolute necessary mandate to determine IF the professed Atheist should get the evidence.

How very imperious of you. You know, real truth doesn't require a check beforehand to see if the person it's getting told to is ready to presuppose that it's true.

Quote:Now, the typical whining reply when I declare the above to an atheist is :' Awwwwe , you just don't have the scientific evidence to show us ' (and other similar hostile guff) . If the Person wishes to go with that then that is fine as I take a pass on them and encourage them to quit being idle about the most vital issue ever and to do a personal google investigation themselves for the evidences since its readily available anyway. For the Atheist who passes my Qualification Test, then it is that person who gets the evidence from myself which includes Me spending as much time with the Individual as he/she requires. But , what I refuse to do is to enter into a futile exchange with your all too common Atheist who is a complete time waster , not interested in truth , and is only interested in playing the charade of an atheistic worldview to bolster the many immoral lifestyles that compete for his/her enslavement. (aka : Total autonomy to live as one likes) .

Read: "Unless you're ready to agree with everything I say out of hand, I'm just going to assume you'll never agree with me at all, even if I'm right!"

Standard theistic claptrap.

Quote:This is my newest approach and its either my way or the Google- it -for -yourself Highway. Regards.

Modhat on: We have a thing called Rule One here, newbie. It requires that you actually contribute to the discussions we have here, if you wish to stay. If you're just going to play these evasive, passive aggressive games, you will be reported, and the mod team will sanction you.

You agreed to play by the rules of this forum when you joined up. If you proceed to break them now, that would be lying, which I'm fairly sure is against your religion, but one thing is certain: we will not be playing this your way, nor will "Google it!" suffice as a proper advancement of discussion. You have been warned.

There are lots of things in life that require a pre-qualifier don't you think ? Ive been quite honest and forthright with everyone here thus far, and I have a sincere desire to dialogue with others who are also honest, forthright, sincere about truly wanting the truth on such a vital matter as God existing . I look forward to remaining in this Forum for intellectual dialogue at a minimum of time wasting . I respect not wasting anothers time, and I delight in the same treatment from Others. Thank you for your thoughts and insight. Dave.

I asked you for your sources before you ever mentioned this test thing. I will be glad to answer your leading, presuppositional nonsense right after you provide the sources I asked for in the other thread.

(November 23, 2014 at 12:36 pm)coldwx Wrote:

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(November 23, 2014 at 12:14 pm)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: Here is the Qualification Test if you think you are serious and honest enough to take it :

_______________________________________

Hello, and thank you for your consideration of completing the following QUALIFICATION TEST FOR ATHEISTS to determine if you are worthy of receiving the scientific evidences for our personal theistic Creator (God) and objective (non circular) historical evidences for Jesus Christ including his resurrection thereby proving his authenticity as the Son of God .




You may ask why all the hoopla just go get the evidence ? As a lover of Gods Word which says :" Don't throw pearls before swine " ... meaning don't waste your time giving the truth to people who don't want it really because theyd rather maintain their own apriori-commitment to their religion of Humanism because it offers maximized indulgence in any and all Lifestyles desired . So, unless you as an Atheist truly have the desire for truth backed up by being willing to completely surrender your life to where the truth leads (which precious few atheists are ever willing to do)...then there is no good reason for myself to partake in lessons of futility which I have already learned several times over from the past.




So, if you are still willing to move forward, please answer the following as honestly, truthfully, factually, cogently, and succinctly as you possibly can . Upon review of your answers, I shall advise you the outcome . Thank you.




1. How did you come to want to believe in an atheistic worldview / origins which traditionally has Materialism and Naturalism being responsible for such NON-material entities such as freewill, personality, reason, logic, discernment , abstract thinking, et al... when it is absurd to have such non material realities coming from atoms ?




2. When you closely and diligently examine the Human Anatomy , what is it about that which looks like the product of mindless, random, chaotic , accidents upon compilations of accidents void of any intelligent design and input ?




3. If you believe the Universe or the Human Anatomy could be created better (since you believe its just the random product of atoms and forces without any intelligent design)....how would YOU make it better than what it is ? And do you believe you could make it better without applying any personal interjection of any kind since the present Universe 'wasn't personally brought about' according to you ?




4. Do you believe it is possible to determine when something requires a personal Designer/Creator for something down here on earth even if you never see or meet such a Designer / Creator ? What criteria would you require for admitting something took a Mind behind the construction of something --- how does something that is intelligently designed look to you when you see it ? What are some of its attributes ?




5. Why don't you think Intelligent Design should be taught in public schools across the nation (world) since there are tons of examples of intelligent designed things here on earth which aren't religious oriented or motivated ? Science is based on natural AND intelligent causes and the discovery thereof, so, why not bring both to the classroom and let the Student decide which cause is more likely for the Universe and other related things ?




6. Do you believe you have a dark side to your personality/character which is universally called Sin ? Do you feel disgusted with the self serving agendas that may have become part of your ongoing life which might include the using of others for your temporary gain or enjoyment or doing things which you know are wrong yet you do them anyways ? Do you see something within yourself that is highly narcissistic and could you point to something in your life which would be rightly called lowlife living (immoral, unethical behavior , etc...) with an accompanying attitude of not caring in the least ? If so, what do u attribute this chosen lifestyle - attitude toward , and, how do you justify doing it ?




7. Are you 'an Atheist' because you don't see any evidence in the least for a personal theistic Creator, or, are you an 'Atheist' because you desire to be your own 'god' calling your own shots in life..... as my 71 year old 'Atheist' friend, Helen, admitted to me (verbatim) lately after 20 minutes of dialogue about God at a local Starbucks ?




8. If you were convinced beyond any doubt that a personal theistic Creator is absolutely necessary for the personal, intelligent-based, information-laden entities left over from the Universe coming into existence .... WHAT would that mean to you / HOW if any would it change your life knowing God would own you and you would be morally responsible to him at a future date --- would it cause you to move closer to him in personal relationship / and if it would make no difference..........WHY would this be your final action ?




9. What bad experience have you had in a Christian Church or in Christian circles ? How has this experienced influenced your desire to be 'an Atheist' ?




10 . What do you think would be your reaction if after you died, you were ushered into the presence of the Universes Creator where you were shown an accurate depiction of your earthly life spent giving God the finger overtly or covertly because you thought you were more important ?




Thank you for your time. Ill get back to you shortly to let you know if you qualified . If you find this Qualification Test an affront to yourself, there is no need to write back and whine , complain , or hurl insults because such a response is never considered . Thanks for your participation. Dave.

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I asked you for your sources before you ever mentioned this test thing. I will be glad to answer your leading, presuppositional nonsense right after you provide the sources I asked for in the other thread.

Hello. I regret to tell you that I believe in the other thread you resorted to using vile and foul language in an insulting manner which is totally against Forum Rules. Therefore, you are disqualified without even taking the Prequalifying Test to determine your sincerity.

So you're going to spam multiple threads with the same nonsense?

There are rules here for a reason: Try reading them.

Dave,

You will desist in spamming the same post in multiple threads. Your intro thread was obviously just a mistake, but that's 2 more times.

Thanks

(November 23, 2014 at 3:33 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Dave,

You will desist in spamming the same post in multiple threads. Your intro thread was obviously just a mistake, but that's 2 more times.

Thanks

I already have desisted. Thanks for the followup .

Response to your questionnaire moved from your intro thread. So, do I win? Do I get the real-deal evidence now? I promise I'll come back and tell the others if it really is as slam dunk as you say.

(November 23, 2014 at 3:01 pm)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: 1. How did you come to want to believe in an atheistic worldview?

I just decided that the truth on its own terms was more important than what I wanted it to be. Likewise the with the 'real' world, I decided to take it straight without any sweeteners.

(November 23, 2014 at 3:01 pm)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: 2. When you closely and diligently examine the Human Anatomy , what is it about that which looks ..

All I see is a mammalian chassis with some souped up software. No more sign of a watchmaker than there is for an impala.

(November 23, 2014 at 3:01 pm)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: 3. If you believe the Universe or the Human Anatomy could be created better ..

I don't believe it was created at all. As conditions change perhaps we'll see more modification in the same way that has brought us to where we are today. No interference will be required from either us or your imaginary friend.

(November 23, 2014 at 3:01 pm)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: 4. Do you believe it is possible to determine when something requires a personal Designer/Creator for something down here on earth even if you never see or meet such a Designer / Creator ?

No. Of course not. I have no bias to preserve on that score and I'm not bat shit crazy.

(November 23, 2014 at 3:01 pm)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: 5. Why don't you think Intelligent Design should be taught in public schools .. why not bring both to the classroom and let the Student decide which cause is more likely for the Universe and other related things?

So you're in favor of teaching the controversy when it comes to math, grammar and history as well? There are no standards as far as you're concerned? Well thanks for not going into education.

(November 23, 2014 at 3:01 pm)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: 6. Do you believe you have a dark side to your personality/character which is universally called Sin ? .. If so, what do u attribute this chosen lifestyle - attitude toward , and, how do you justify doing it ?

No, I don't believe in the devil. I don't have an objective set of morals I feel compelled to execute where every failing makes me feel like a piece of shit. Nor do I feel that I should. The amazing thing is that anyone does feel as you do. (It isn't natural.)

(November 23, 2014 at 3:01 pm)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: 7. Are you 'an Atheist' because you don't see any evidence in the least for a personal theistic Creator?

Correct. If you actually had anything substantial I could change my position in a heartbeat. But I don't desire to believe in a god so I won't make any special effort so don't expect me to compromise my beliefs in the service of changing them. I see nothing attractive about what you believe. Really, quite the opposite.

(November 23, 2014 at 3:01 pm)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: 8. If you were convinced beyond any doubt that a personal theistic Creator is absolutely necessary for .. ?

As I've already told ChadW any number of times I can't conceive of a logical argument that would convince me that what we see can only have come from a cosmic watchmaker. What we see is simply what we see and we're in no position to impose necessities on how it got to be that way. All we can do is track the natural record as far as it goes and report on some of its history. Beyond that is only hubris and idiocy (the former in ChadW's case, most likely the latter in yours).

(November 23, 2014 at 3:01 pm)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: 9. What bad experience have you had in a Christian Church or in Christian circles?

Once I accompanied my father to his church intending only to find some common ground. At some point the pastor guy asked a question (which I no longer recall) and I ended up saying that I was fine with believers believing but that I'd rather they worked less hard at proselytizing since the world would be less rich and interesting if everyone in the world donned a suit, picked up a bible and went to a church on Sundays. The pastor guy called me a snake. My only regret was causing my father some distress. But the guy was an ass.

(November 23, 2014 at 3:01 pm)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: 10 . Which Sources have you diligently investigated on the subject of modern scientific evidences for a personal theistic Creator (God)?

None. I'm not invested in adopting this belief even though I stand ready to if you can actually provide any relevant and sufficient evidence for god. Otherwise, no big loss.

(November 23, 2014 at 3:11 pm)YouCanCallMeDave Wrote: Hello. I regret to tell you that I believe in the other thread you resorted to using vile and foul language in an insulting manner which is totally against Forum Rules. Therefore, you are disqualified without even taking the Prequalifying Test to determine your sincerity.

Dave - you will desist from impersonating a member of Staff in this way. Your interpretation of Forum Rules is totally inaccurate and your application thereof may be grounds for action in itself. If you have a problem which you feel breaches the Rules, you will report it through the usual channels. I won't have to repeat myself.