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RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will
November 24, 2014 at 10:20 am
(November 24, 2014 at 12:22 am)Nope Wrote: (November 23, 2014 at 8:32 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Its not dishonest. It's an honest warning.
You aren't denying that your example is a cartoonish caricature.
The example is not the caricature. What happens is that in eternity people's being increasing conforms to their true nature. For some, that means becoming a caricature of their previous humanity.
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RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will
November 24, 2014 at 10:21 am
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So hell....for me, will be endlessly tending to tomatoes and fucking my wife (maybe the occasional hunting/fishing trip...a glorious battle every century or so)? You're warning me about this, "honestly"................?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will
November 24, 2014 at 10:52 am
(November 24, 2014 at 10:21 am)Rhythm Wrote: So hell....for me, will be endlessly tending to tomatoes and fucking my wife (maybe the occasional hunting/fishing trip...a glorious battle every century or so)? You're warning me about this, "honestly"................?
i don't know... but that place seems like its the greatest place to go instead of getting the same lame harp song in heaven.
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RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will
November 24, 2014 at 11:24 am
hrugs: I guess some people like harps?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will
November 24, 2014 at 11:29 am
I'm starting to wish hell was real....an eternity of sex and happiness and not a single god to fuck it up I want to go to hell so bad now.
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RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will
November 24, 2014 at 11:39 am
Some versions of it do seem much more palatable than heaven.
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RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will
November 24, 2014 at 11:57 am
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(November 24, 2014 at 11:24 am)Rhythm Wrote: hrugs: I guess some people like harps?
I might be misreading Revelations but it sounds like people in heaven just stand around and praise god. I understand that people want heaven to exist so that they can see their deceased loved ones again but it doesn't sound like they will be doing anything more than telling god he is great
… Quote:fter this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10And they cried out in a loud voice:
“Salvation belongs to our God,
who sits on the throne,
and to the Lamb.”
11All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12saying:
“Amen!
Praise and glory
and wisdom and thanks and honor
and power and strength
be to our God for ever and ever.
Amen!”
13Then one of the elders asked me, “These in white robes—who are they, and where did they come from?”
14I answered, “Sir, you know.”
And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15Therefore,
“they are before the throne of God
and serve him day and night in his temple;
and he who sits on the throne
will shelter them with his presence.
16‘Never again will they hunger;
never again will they thirst.
The sun will not beat down on them,’a
nor any scorching heat.
17For the Lamb at the center of the throne
will be their shepherd;
‘he will lead them to springs of living water.’b
‘And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.’c ”
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RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will
November 24, 2014 at 12:01 pm
Yeah, and if I have to choose between that or marinara and a naked woman it's a pretty easy decision. Something tells me, though, that this idea of hell isn't what our apologist has in mind.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will
November 24, 2014 at 12:33 pm
No, he thinks we'll all just be languishing in all the worst sides of humanity, where life is like those anti drug commercials that show the horrible side effects of meth and such.
It's in line with the believe that heaven is where the good people go, and hell is where the bad people go, despite the fact that what you do in this life is not as important as who you know. So Jeffrey Dahmer are up in heaven, while Gandhi is down in hell, because one of them said the magic words before he died, and the other didn't. When you have a guy that's more concerned abotu how useful you are to him, than who you are and how you lived your life, chanced are neither heaven nor hell will be what you think they are.
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RE: I Really Hate The Concept Of Free Will
November 24, 2014 at 12:42 pm
so heaven get a life worshiping a god for all eternity and do nothing more than just worship.
then there is hell you get to do shit.... hmmm i like the idea of doing things instead of doing only 1 act.
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