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MERGED: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1) & (Part 2)
RE: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1)
Jerkoff
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RE: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1)
The objections presented to you thusfar are that the sources don't speak to the existence of any jesus, while offering contradictory narratives - and that there is an element of forgery in -at least one-. You don't see that as a problem?
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RE: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1)
His Majesty why are you having a hard time understanding this. Tacitus is not reporting this as fact but as a representation of what this particular cult believed. He reports other cults in much the same way.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1)
(November 24, 2014 at 7:01 pm)His_Majesty Wrote: Dude, you have to look at the entire freakin' context.

If you recognise that, why did your wheels spin when I tried to get you to do it with the TF passage in Josephus? Which double standard are we flying with here?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1)
(November 24, 2014 at 7:53 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Are you really this stupid?

Damn the ad hominems, I asked you a freakin' question...how do you know that George Washington was the first President of the U.S....you cannot begin to answer that question without basing it off on what you were told.

So answer the question......how do you know that George Washington was the first President of the U.S??

(November 24, 2014 at 7:53 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: You don't even have that (it is, in fact one of the questions we seek to answer here), and given that it's one element of what you're trying to prove, it's absolutely question begging to assert it here.

Actually we do...we have the book of Acts, which Jospehus corroborates by saying that followers of Christ were called "Christians" by the population.

Keep the feeble objections coming.

(November 24, 2014 at 7:53 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: But please, do continue as if your entire argument isn't fallacious.

So you are willing to think that the vast majority of historians are fallacious? Okey dokey.

(November 24, 2014 at 8:12 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(November 24, 2014 at 7:01 pm)His_Majesty Wrote: Dude, you have to look at the entire freakin' context.

If you recognise that, why did your wheels spin when I tried to get you to do it with the TF passage in Josephus? Which double standard are we flying with here?

I repeat: I'd like to see the passage myself. (Something like that) ROFLOL
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RE: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1)
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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RE: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1)
You wouldn't know an ad hominem if it bit you on the ass.

You're stupid, because you compare the existence of a person for whom no contemporary source exists, versus on where a great many contemporary sources do.

So, yes, it would appear that you really are that stupid. Which, incidentally, is not an ad hominem - it's an inescapable conclusion one reaches when reading your arguments.

As I have better things to do at the moment, I'll leave the arguments to my counterparts here, and resume the regularly scheduled mocking you so richly deserve.
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RE: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1)
We know george Washington was the first from multiple contemporary and non contradictory sources that tell us that George Washington was most likely the first President
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1)
I'm sure we have letters and other papers he wrote too, plus artefacts depicting him, such as coins for example. A Jesus signature on a sales docket or something would at least be impressive.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ (Part 1)
(November 24, 2014 at 8:40 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I'm sure we have letters and other papers he wrote too, plus artefacts depicting him, such as coins for example. A Jesus signature on a sales docket or something would at least be impressive.

Oh hell I'll settle for Jesus having written via scribe to be honest.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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