(December 5, 2014 at 3:19 pm)simplemoss Wrote:

(December 5, 2014 at 12:48 pm)Faith No More Wrote: More fuel for the partisan shit-fire.

Why?

I think that your name is well chosen.

There isn't a single party that has a monopoly on racists. I know racists who vote as Democrats, Republicans, and Libertarians. I live in Mississippi so believe me when I say I know racists.

(December 5, 2014 at 1:12 pm)Heywood Wrote:

(December 5, 2014 at 12:41 pm)simplemoss Wrote: Republicans agree with racists, and racists agree with Republicans

Progressives are racist for implementing policies which keep minorities poor and disadvantaged

Yeah, Woodie. We should probably just line up with you and shoot the motherfuckers and put them out of their misery.

You moron.

(December 5, 2014 at 3:19 pm)simplemoss Wrote:

(December 5, 2014 at 12:48 pm)Faith No More Wrote: More fuel for the partisan shit-fire.

Why?

Good question.

(December 5, 2014 at 3:48 pm)Faith No More Wrote:

(December 5, 2014 at 3:19 pm)simplemoss Wrote: Why?

Good question.

I think so


Why are your goals of "reaching across the isle" more important than solving racism in the USA???

Everytime white supremacy is in the news repeblican senators and congressman and of corse FOX follow in lock step with whatever the white racist side has too say. Democrats fall in line with everyone else.

The USA was founded on white supremacy. We are everyday, not only victim too subconscious racism but organized militant racist organizations like the KKK, who are labeled a terrorist organization by the federal government.

Yet the police arrests anti facist protesters for protesting at a kkk rally.

And every single time Republicans are in lock step behind the KKK, the nazis, the white supremacists. Why is it not fair too bring this up?

(December 5, 2014 at 1:22 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:

(December 5, 2014 at 1:10 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Don't think I've come across a liberal racist so far.

Then you have been willfully not looking. If you limit your social circle to boring, guilt ridden white liberals, then yes you probably won't run into many racists. If you talk to a black panther who has socialist beliefs, you might find some liberal racists.

Yeah you're probably right. Typically all my friends are white and completely bland. And I haven't been searching for racists recently on my excursions. Perhaps I'll take a trip to the US and seek them out.

(December 5, 2014 at 1:22 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Also the KKK historically has a democratic group ...

You are too smart to be making a statement that ignorant. I really can't believe you would pretend to be oblivious to the history of The Southern Strategy and the time in which the Democrats and Republicans changes sides on the issue of civil rights.

If you are being honest, you should be aware there was a massive electoral re-alignment during the 60's when the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act was passed in 64 and 65 respectively. Nixon successfully used The Southern Strategy to win over Dixiecrats and convert them to Republicans. Democrats, meanwhile, also changed sides and championed civil rights of minorities.

The GOP WAS the part of Lincoln, past tense emphasized. It stopped being the Party of Lincoln during the 60s. To try to make an argument that appeals to history is at best ignorant and at worst dishonest.

Yes, the Republican Party really is soaking in racism. It was hidden before 2008 but since the election of Obama, it's all come bubbling to the surface, producing a stink so pungent that it astounds me that so many people either can't or pretend not to smell it.

Consider:

• Never before in our nation's history has any president been heckled during a SOTU address by a sitting member of Congress, a Congressman who wasn't either arrested or pressured to resign but instead hailed as a hero.
  
• Never before in our nation's history has any president been forced to not only address a crackpot conspiracy theory but comply with it's demands by producing his birth certificate to try to (unsuccessfully) put it to rest.
  
• Never before in our nation's history has a non-scandal like Benghazi survived seven Congressional investigations proving absolutely nothing only to have that faux-scandal be continuously circulated and brought up as a possible impeachment pretext.
  
• Never before in our nation's history has every bill and procedure in the Senate been filibustered as a deliberate effort to gum up the works to sabotage the country while and because a certain president was in office.
  
• Never before in our nation's history has such a record low number of bills been passed by the House of Representatives, also in a deliberate attempt to sabotage the country.
  
• Never before in our nation's history has the Congress used the shutdown so casually as a political sabotage tactic. We're about to shut down again. It's become part of life now.
  

"No, it's not racism. It's because of Obama's radical policies!" the Republicans protest.

Bullshit.

Clinton raised taxes. Obama cut taxes.
Clinton proposed socialized medicine. Obama proposed a modest reform based on the free market exchanges and mild regulations.
W Bush lied us into a war. Obama may have lied about some people being able to keep their health care plan.
We have recent presidents who have been further to the left or done things far more destructive to the country and not faced this level of disrespect and sabotage.

There is absolutely nothing in Obama's center-right, heavily compromised and corporate-friendly governance that should drive the right wing in this country so insane that they are willing to sabotage the country just to oppose him.

If such mild governance is enough to drive the GOP so crazy, they need to do their own mental health a favor and get out of politics until they can develop some stronger emotional coping skills.

(December 6, 2014 at 2:44 pm)simplemoss Wrote: Why are your goals of "reaching across the isle" more important than solving racism in the USA???

Everytime white supremacy is in the news repeblican senators and congressman and of corse FOX follow in lock step with whatever the white racist side has too say. Democrats fall in line with everyone else.

The USA was founded on white supremacy. We are everyday, not only victim too subconscious racism but organized militant racist organizations like the KKK, who are labeled a terrorist organization by the federal government.

Yet the police arrests anti facist protesters for protesting at a kkk rally.

And every single time Republicans are in lock step behind the KKK, the nazis, the white supremacists. Why is it not fair too bring this up?

Firstly, assuming that all Republicans are racist is fatuous. Secondly, conflating that with unsourced police actions is not only unsupported, it confuses the issue at hand. Thridly, you write "And every single time Republicans are in lock step behind the KKK, the nazis, the white supremacists" -- which means that one and only one example is needed to undercut your point.

Weak argument, presented poorly.

Finally, you completely ignored the point that not all racism is white-on-minority racism.

(December 6, 2014 at 3:06 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Yeah you're probably right. Typically all my friends are white and completely bland. And I haven't been searching for racists recently on my excursions. Perhaps I'll take a trip to the US and seek them out.

I couldn't watch the video -- I'm at work, and this computer is soundless -- but I'm pretty sure that racism is a phenomenon in all peoples, and not limited to any one nation or ethnicity.

If you'd like, I'll look up some instances for you; but I trust you see my point.

My entire contribution to this thread has been in humor.

You guys need to remember first that I'm British, and second that our first language is sarcasm

The video is from the British/Irish comedy Father Ted. you should watch it when you're not at work as it's probably one of the funniest comedies ever made.

Are all Republicans racist? Probably not.

Are many of them? Unequivocally.

Is racism a foundation upon which many of the Republican Party's policies are constructed? There can be no question about it.

Heywood Wrote:Progressives are racist for implementing policies which keep minorities poor and disadvantaged

Conservatives are racist because they think having a dark skin makes you stupid enough to fall for that lie.