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RE: Green Peace damages Nacza lines
December 12, 2014 at 6:54 pm
That's weird as fuck for an organization like Greenpeace. What were they thinking? But more importantly, is this real?
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RE: Green Peace damages Nacza lines
December 12, 2014 at 6:58 pm
(December 12, 2014 at 6:25 pm)Chas Wrote: It wasn't vandalism. The message put down was not damaging, any alleged damage would have been accidental.
Peru has claimed there was damage but there is no description of it. Evidence?
Yes it wasn't the smartest thing they could have done, but I'm with Chas here. The letters are cutouts which were laid on top of the ground, and I'm not seeing this most visible of all lines they damaged. Did they erase it completely?
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RE: Green Peace damages Nacza lines
December 12, 2014 at 6:58 pm
(December 12, 2014 at 6:54 pm)oukoida Wrote: That's weird as fuck for an organization like Greenpeace. What were they thinking? But more importantly, is this real?
It is in the German news with plenty of details and names
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RE: Green Peace damages Nacza lines
December 12, 2014 at 7:03 pm
(December 12, 2014 at 6:58 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: (December 12, 2014 at 6:25 pm)Chas Wrote: It wasn't vandalism. The message put down was not damaging, any alleged damage would have been accidental.
Peru has claimed there was damage but there is no description of it. Evidence?
Yes it wasn't the smartest thing they could have done, but I'm with Chas here. The letters are cutouts which were laid on top of the ground, and I'm not seeing this most visible of all lines they damaged. Did they erase it completely?
Here's a USA Today article explaining it more in-depth:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world.../20318005/
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RE: Green Peace damages Nacza lines
December 12, 2014 at 7:09 pm
(December 12, 2014 at 6:58 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: (December 12, 2014 at 6:25 pm)Chas Wrote: It wasn't vandalism. The message put down was not damaging, any alleged damage would have been accidental.
Peru has claimed there was damage but there is no description of it. Evidence?
Yes it wasn't the smartest thing they could have done, but I'm with Chas here. The letters are cutouts which were laid on top of the ground, and I'm not seeing this most visible of all lines they damaged. Did they erase it completely?
That is good to know.
Quote:he activists placed yellow letters next to a famous hummingbird design, and now Peruvian authorities are threatening to sue Greenpeace and criminally charge the activists with "attacking archaeological monuments," according to The Associated Press.
Even after reading the CNN article, I assumed that placing the letters meant that they painted them which seems amazingly disrespectful. I am glad to learn that they placed cutouts on the site. Still a stupid thing to do but hopefully, they can rectify the damage.
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RE: Green Peace damages Nacza lines
December 12, 2014 at 7:11 pm
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Stupidity truly has no limits. They really should have known better in the first place.
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RE: Green Peace damages Nacza lines
December 12, 2014 at 7:12 pm
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(December 12, 2014 at 6:25 pm)Chas Wrote: It wasn't vandalism. The message put down was not damaging, any alleged damage would have been accidental.
Peru has claimed there was damage but there is no description of it. Evidence?
This is willful defacement of a historical monument. It isn't any different than TPing (covering in toilet paper) Mount Rushmore. It is vandalism pure and simple.
(December 12, 2014 at 7:09 pm)Nope Wrote: Even after reading the CNN article, I assumed that placing the letters meant that they painted them which seems amazingly disrespectful. I am glad to learn that they placed cutouts on the site. Still a stupid thing to do but hopefully, they can rectify the damage.
Not even government officials are allowed on that site without special permission. It is so sensitive to foot traffic that when people do visit it, they are required to use special shoes and follow a strict protocol(which I am imagining probably involves walking on their tippy toes)
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RE: Green Peace damages Nacza lines
December 12, 2014 at 7:18 pm
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(December 12, 2014 at 7:12 pm)Heywood Wrote: (December 12, 2014 at 6:25 pm)Chas Wrote: It wasn't vandalism. The message put down was not damaging, any alleged damage would have been accidental.
Peru has claimed there was damage but there is no description of it. Evidence?
This is willful defacement of a historical monument. It isn't any different than TPing (covering in toilet paper) Mount Rushmore. It is vandalism pure and simple.
(December 12, 2014 at 7:09 pm)Nope Wrote: Even after reading the CNN article, I assumed that placing the letters meant that they painted them which seems amazingly disrespectful. I am glad to learn that they placed cutouts on the site. Still a stupid thing to do but hopefully, they can rectify the damage.
Not even government officials are allowed on that site without special permission. It is so sensitive to foot traffic that when people do visit it, they are required to use special shoes and follow a strict protocol(which I am imagining probably involves walking on their tippy toes)
Nope. Vandalism requires damaging or defacing.
(December 12, 2014 at 7:03 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: (December 12, 2014 at 6:58 pm)popeyespappy Wrote: Yes it wasn't the smartest thing they could have done, but I'm with Chas here. The letters are cutouts which were laid on top of the ground, and I'm not seeing this most visible of all lines they damaged. Did they erase it completely?
Here's a USA Today article explaining it more in-depth:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world.../20318005/
Still no evidence or even a description of damage.
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RE: Green Peace damages Nacza lines
December 12, 2014 at 7:20 pm
(This post was last modified: December 12, 2014 at 7:22 pm by Heywood.)
(December 12, 2014 at 7:18 pm)Chas Wrote: (December 12, 2014 at 7:12 pm)Heywood Wrote: This is willful defacement of a historical monument. It isn't any different than TPing (covering in toilet paper) Mount Rushmore. It is vandalism pure and simple.
Not even government officials are allowed on that site without special permission. It is so sensitive to foot traffic that when people do visit it, they are required to use special shoes and follow a strict protocol(which I am imagining probably involves walking on their tippy toes)
Nope. Vandalism requires damaging or defacing.
(December 12, 2014 at 7:03 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Here's a USA Today article explaining it more in-depth:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world.../20318005/
Still no evidence or even a description of damage.
Greenpeace both damaged and defaced the site so it is vandalism. The Peruvian government claims one of the lines was damaged and foot prints were left that will last hundreds if not thousands of years. It was in the CNN article. I even quoted part of it.
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RE: Green Peace damages Nacza lines
December 12, 2014 at 7:20 pm
Just walking on that surface can damage it. I think you'd have to get a lot closer than those photos to see it.
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