Oh of course somebody and/or you have Spooky! You see, Drich can't make slavery any better...so he's just going to have to drag everyone else into the mud with his imaginary fucking god.

There's no other way to proceed....that's all.

You'd think God could make a world that works without the need for slavery.

I'm always stunned when someone completely abandons any semblance of morals in favour of a fucking book of fairy tale garbage. I suppose Drich would be absolutely fine with being kidnapped and put into slavery then, as long as his master only beat him unconscious and not to death.

Evil book. Evil.

(December 18, 2014 at 1:04 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Being physically disabled myself, I find Leviticus 21:17-23 pretty reprehensible on a personal level.

Wow, I didn't know that one. But then, Leviticus is such a shit fest, it's easy to miss.

(December 18, 2014 at 1:10 pm)Alex K Wrote:

(December 18, 2014 at 1:04 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Being physically disabled myself, I find Leviticus 21:17-23 pretty reprehensible on a personal level.

Wow, I didn't know that one. But then, Leviticus is such a shit fest, it's easy to miss.

What's hilarious is that a few chapters before that, god tells Moses to specifically spread the word that neither the deaf nor blind should be ridiculed/have obstacles placed before them. So, pulling a Nelson Muntz is definitely not okay.

But god doesn't want to look at the disabled. He prefers they enter through the back door (heeeeyoooo ) so as to not disturb the normals from offering their sweet, sweet blood sacrifices.

Slavery is not okay its inhumane, just because god said these things are okay in the bible are okay they are not okay.

let me list off the things that are not okay

rape
pillage
murder
slavery
kill "witches"(pagans), Homosexuals, fortunetellers, nonbelievers, etc there is a whole list of things i know i wont bother.

and more

you see why people find Christianity offensive. <- because its done more to hurt people than help.

We have established that the bible contradicts itself. To follow something so obviously flawed offends me.

So much blood has been spilled in the bible's name I'm surprised people will even admit to being Christian.

Buried deep in Christian philosophy is a hatred for life and the living, and its practice causes deep schisms in people and families.

I like many Christians. I detest the religion.

(December 18, 2014 at 1:16 pm)dyresand Wrote: Slavery is not okay its inhumane, just because god said these things are okay in the bible are okay they are not okay.

let me list off the things that are not okay

rape
pillage
murder
slavery
kill "witches"(pagans), Homosexuals, fortunetellers, nonbelievers, etc there is a whole list of things i know i wont bother.

and more

you see why people find Christianity offensive. <- because its done more to hurt people than help.

Add murder for infidelity to the list. There's a whole bunch of that in the 'good' book. Yes, infidelity is definitely not good, but it's not worth murdering someone for.

(December 18, 2014 at 12:52 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Cheapest/lowest bidder =/= "slavery"

Wake up. If you had a factory in the US paying people $35.00 per hour as a union worker slamming in part 'A' into Part 'B' on an assemble line for an Auto maker, and had to have a min order of 10,000 peices @ $400.00 per Part a/b assembly to show a profit.

And I had a factory in China who did the SAME EXACT Thing, but I could pay my people 5 dollars aday, and subdize the rest with living space and food which costs me 10 dollars a month per family. That would mean I could do a much smaller production run to show the same profit even if a charged much much less.

As a point in fact why do you think ALL US Manufactures have moved to places like mexico and China? In truth it is for this very reason. So to say lowest bidder doesn't mean slavery speaks foolishly to the exception and not the rule.

Quote:- but otherwise you absolutely have a point. Many things which we use, depend on, or purchase are products of exploitative interactions.

EVERYTHING you have is a product of Slavery. Until robotics can be used more cost effectivly than slaves then know you directly benfit from slaves, therefore you are paying coperations to keep unregulated slaves on your behalf.

Quote:Some things we can opt out of, some things we cant. Some things we know about (some we don't).

It does not change anything. Because bottom line as a consumer in a consumer soceity, Price will always be the deciding factor as to whether or not a product is purchased or not. as such the cheapest will always sell first, that means reducing production cost is the only way for a company to make money. The most cost effective way of doing this is reducing labor costs. This ultimatly = Slavery.

Quote:Some things...a few here and there, aren't part or privy to this at all.

Examples? Know even if you can name a few.. their 'parts'/supplies may assemble their componets in a slave nation.

Quote:(I buy alot of shit custom, at ludicrous price- but I have an uncommon profession). "Modern life" could, can, and does exist without slaves.

It technically could, it's just no one could afford it.
Again why do you think ALL Of Western Manufacturing of ALL Modern Life has moved to slave countries?

Quote:Nothing has "slave labor" as an non-negotiable input. We can't control the actions of others, oceans away (hell, even next door).

Indeed, so welcome to the "Dark side." Remember I am not the one saying we can or have to live without slavery. I am simply saying call a spade a spade and regulate slavery as God would have us do.

Quote:The best we can do is deal with those situations as they arise...and yes.. we may have already bought their product before they come to our attention. We're human, it happens.

That's the thing Far fewer 'situations' come up Because douche bags keep pretending that they do not endorse slavery in our modern era.

If people like you would acknoweledge their role in slavery. Slave owners could be held to account. As it is they for the most part do what they want.

(December 18, 2014 at 1:17 pm)Spooky Wrote: We have established that the bible contradicts itself. To follow something so obviously flawed offends me.

So much blood has been spilled in the bible's name I'm surprised people will even admit to being Christian.

Yeah, they'll need to move on from being a biblical christian to direct revelation. How 'bout it, Drich, Lek and the rest?