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Evangelical Alliance: "We aren't homophobic women-haters"
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RE: Evangelical Alliance: "We aren't homophobic women-haters"
December 18, 2014 at 3:26 pm
Just to drive the point home:

https://www.barna.org/barna-update/artic...JMqGNJDt8E

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RE: Evangelical Alliance: "We aren't homophobic women-haters"
December 18, 2014 at 3:31 pm
(December 18, 2014 at 3:26 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Just to drive the point home:

https://www.barna.org/barna-update/artic...JMqGNJDt8E

Freud would have another field day with me. Somehow Ray Comfort must have slipped into my mind unnoticed. I read you link banana.org instead of barna.
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RE: Evangelical Alliance: "We aren't homophobic women-haters"
December 18, 2014 at 3:33 pm
(December 18, 2014 at 3:31 pm)abaris Wrote: Freud would have another field day with me. Somehow Ray Comfort must have slipped into my mind unnoticed. I read you link banana.org instead of barna.

Eerie... I had the exact same thought at first. Christians would say that's God working
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RE: Evangelical Alliance: "We aren't homophobic women-haters"
December 18, 2014 at 4:52 pm (This post was last modified: December 18, 2014 at 4:54 pm by vorlon13.)
Interesting but flawed survey.

By definition, the number of remarried christians is 0. That people are confused about their actual religious beliefs and practices comes as not much of a surprise. God HATES divorce. Obviously, a TRUE follower would rather die and earn his eternal reward than divorce.
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RE: Evangelical Alliance: "We aren't homophobic women-haters"
December 18, 2014 at 5:20 pm
No True Scotsman Fallacy, I see.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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RE: Evangelical Alliance: "We aren't homophobic women-haters"
December 18, 2014 at 9:33 pm (This post was last modified: December 18, 2014 at 10:22 pm by Lek.)
(December 18, 2014 at 12:43 pm)Esquilax Wrote: No, my position is that you're not absolved of responsibility for the opinions you hold just because you're just following orders. You may not hate women and gays, but the opinions you hold of them are hateful ones, and you don't get to be free of the consequences of those opinions just by saying "oh, they're not my hateful opinions! They're god's hateful opinions!"

Regardless of how you came to your views, they're still your views, and whether you've frontloaded those views with genuine, rabid hate, or with deference to an authority that you feel holds those views, they are what they are. To say that the homophobic, misogynistic views you hold aren't either of those things because you don't literally fear gay people or hate women, when the views themselves look, sound, and achieve the effects of misogyny and homophobia, then what you're engaged in is sophistry, not some form of effective correction.

I've got no problem with taking responsibility for my views. I think your problem is that you're christophobic. You're views toward christianity are very hateful. Or maybe you don't really hate christians, but you just hate some of their beliefs.


(December 18, 2014 at 12:43 pm)Esquilax Wrote: And as I've pointed out before, the sacredness of an idea, the attachment that you personally have to it, does not confer ownership over that idea to you. You know this, because you wouldn't bend over backwards in support of any of my examples of sacred beliefs, you just expect other people to do it for you.

It's special pleading, plain and simple.

Additionally, that crack about dogs is ridiculous and offensive, and you said it in such a blase, thoughtless way, yet you distance yourself from homophobia? Dodgy

My comment about the union of two dogs has nothing to do with homosexuals. I was just trying to come up with a ridiculous example of what someone might try to define as marriage. If I offended anybody, I'm sorry.
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RE: Evangelical Alliance: "We aren't homophobic women-haters"
December 18, 2014 at 10:39 pm
I'm christophobic I'm fucking terrified of Christians!!! Leave me alone what do you want from me gold? diamonds?? I have none GO AWAY!!!
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RE: Evangelical Alliance: "We aren't homophobic women-haters"
December 18, 2014 at 10:47 pm
(December 18, 2014 at 10:39 pm)simplemoss Wrote: I'm christophobic I'm fucking terrified of Christians!!! Leave me alone what do you want from me gold? diamonds?? I have none GO AWAY!!!

As vicious as you guys say we are, you better be! Just deposit all your money in the collection basket and we'll leave you alone.
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RE: Evangelical Alliance: "We aren't homophobic women-haters"
December 18, 2014 at 10:59 pm
(December 18, 2014 at 10:47 pm)Lek Wrote:
(December 18, 2014 at 10:39 pm)simplemoss Wrote: I'm christophobic I'm fucking terrified of Christians!!! Leave me alone what do you want from me gold? diamonds?? I have none GO AWAY!!!

As vicious as you guys say we are, you better be! Just deposit all your money in the collection basket and we'll leave you alone.

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RE: Evangelical Alliance: "We aren't homophobic women-haters"
December 19, 2014 at 3:11 am
(December 18, 2014 at 4:52 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Interesting but flawed survey.

By definition, the number of remarried christians is 0. That people are confused about their actual religious beliefs and practices comes as not much of a surprise. God HATES divorce. Obviously, a TRUE follower would rather die and earn his eternal reward than divorce.

Is that the flaw you're talking about? Be specific.

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