(January 7, 2015 at 1:19 pm)Chuck Wrote:

(January 7, 2015 at 12:29 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Putin condemned the attacks as well. Thats awesome, yet passes laws outlawing gay activism. Sorry Putin, go fuck yourself!

Putin fucking himself may be illegal under Russia anti-gay laws.

I smell a meme, wish I could photoshop, not good at that at all. Maybe show Putin being fucked up the ass by an Imam?

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(January 7, 2015 at 11:21 am)robvalue Wrote: What does it freaking matter? They think an all powerful God is going to get upset because someone wrote shit about him or drew a picture? That's ridiculous.

Unfortunately they do. Not because a real god exists, but because humans have a bad tendency throughout our evolution to default to protecting social norms rather than question them. Their violence is a result of their lack of awareness of their real cognitive dissonance. Humans don't like their patterns they think work being upset or challenged.

Salman Rushdie weighs in. Correctly.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/salma...isrespect/

Quote:Salman Rushdie on Paris attack: Religion a ‘medieval form of unreason’ that deserves ‘fearless disrespect’

I don't understand the offense Islam takes to people doing satire of their religion.

We don't see the same thing from Catholics when we represent "slutty" Catholic Nuns, or even from Jews when we see anti-semitic slogans (and anti-semitism is far worse than drawing Mo-Mo, come on). I just don't understand this special right Islam reserves to be so offended, it comes off so entitled to me.

(January 7, 2015 at 2:11 pm)Vosur Wrote:

I don't think me and anonymous would get on.

(January 7, 2015 at 2:12 pm)NuclearJaguar Wrote: I don't understand the offense Islam takes to people doing satire of their religion.

We don't see the same thing from Catholics when we represent "slutty" Catholic Nuns, or even from Jews when we see anti-semitic slogans (and anti-semitism is far worse than drawing Mo-Mo, come on).

Less often would be more fitting. There aren't that many fundamentalist catholics, but there are fundamentalist christians. And they certainly commit violent acts. Same goes for jews. There aren't that many fundamentalists, but those who are also commit violent acts. From the top of my head, the assassination of Rabin, the massacre Baruch Goldstein committed or more recently, in respond to Palestinian extremists murdering jewish youths, they murdered a Palestinian youth.

Fundamentalist religion is always poison, regardless of the particular god involved.

Yet, our home-grown right-wing terrorists think they are different from these people.



They are the same.



But more cowardly.

(January 7, 2015 at 1:50 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Unfortunately they do. Not because a real god exists, but because humans have a bad tendency throughout our evolution to default to protecting social norms rather than question them. Their violence is a result of their lack of awareness of their real cognitive dissonance. Humans don't like their patterns they think work being upset or challenged.

This.

If it was good enough for my pappy, it's good enough for me....and you.....and everybody in the whole world. And I'm gonna make ya. Yea!

(January 7, 2015 at 2:12 pm)NuclearJaguar Wrote: I don't understand the offense Islam takes to people doing satire of their religion.

We don't see the same thing from Catholics when we represent "slutty" Catholic Nuns, or even from Jews when we see anti-semitic slogans (and anti-semitism is far worse than drawing Mo-Mo, come on). I just don't understand this special right Islam reserves to be so offended, it comes off so entitled to me.

It's all in the place and the timing. Try satirizing the Catholic Church in the 1500s. Try working on the Sabbath in an Orthodox portion of modern-day Jerusalem.

Good luck with that.

Religious "offense" is just one of the ways the nasty virus has of suppressing criticism and dissent. The usual tools of totalitarianism.

Islam is the elephant in the room.

Whilst obviously true that not all Muslims are extremists, too often this truism is translated into inaction in the face of the very real threat of extremism which is prevalent in many if not all Islamic communities throughout (at least) the UK and further abroad in Europe. In my own city here in England extremism has been found in schools and local councils, but every attempt to confront it has been decried as islamophobia (in the school case, the people who were warning about extremism were themselves Muslims!)

We need to confront extremism, not kowtow to it. We need to ensure that nobody is afraid of calling Mohammed a pig fucker or publishing a picture of him. We need to unite against it and not be afraid, and it starts with the political elite confronting the elephant of extremism that we all know exists but are afraid of outing in case they become the target of that extremism.

Edited for spelling and grammar (damn iphone )