(January 7, 2015 at 3:24 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Islam is the elephant in the room.

Whilet obviously true that not all Muslims are extremists, too often this truism is translated into inaction in the face of the very real threat of extremism which is prevelant in many if not all Islamic communities throughout (at least) the UK and further abroad in Europe. In my own city here in england extremism has been found in schools and local councils, but every attempt to confront it has been decried as islamophobia (in the school case, the people who were warning about extremism where themselves Muslims!)

We need to confront extremism, not kowtow to it. We need to ensure that nobody is afraid of calling Mohammed a pig fucker or publishing a picture of him. We need to unite against it and not be afraid, and it starts with the political elite confronting the elephant of extremism that we all know exists but are afraid of outing in case they become the target of that extremism.

In short, we need to cleave to our own values, not kowtow to theirs.

Well said.

This is the sort of shit that makes my blood boil:

"Howard Dean: Don’t Call Paris Attackers ‘Muslim Terrorists"
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/howard-dean-d...errorists/

"Flashback: White House Rebuked Hebdo Muhammed Cartoon in 2012"
http://www.mediaite.com/online/flashback...n-in-2012/

"Financial Times Calls Charlie Hebdo ‘Stupid’ for ‘Provoking Muslims"
http://www.mediaite.com/online/financial...g-muslims/

"TIME Editorial Slammed Hebdo in 2011: Not a ‘Free Speech Martyr’"
http://www.mediaite.com/online/time-edit...ch-martyr/

"New York Daily News Blurs Charlie Hebdo Muhammed Cover"
http://www.mediaite.com/online/new-york-...med-cover/

Fucking cowards.

Don't call them muslim terrorist? What else can you call them? They're muslims who are terrorists. To pretend this has nothing to do with religion is just ridiculous.

Well, to be fair I'm assuming that is what they are. I don't know if their identity has been confirmed yet?

(January 7, 2015 at 12:09 pm)Chuck Wrote:

(January 7, 2015 at 8:58 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...-live.html

Offended by the cartoons of good ol Mo, some Islamists have decided to take it upon themselves to murder at least 10 people in cold blood.

Live updates as per the attached link.

Now would be a good time for every newspaper, news magazine and tabloid in the world to reprint these cartoons on the front page.

Oh hell yes! That call is all over the internet now. As soon as it is printed I am going to post it on my pages and everywhere I can.

Yes, it's about time to unite on this and show them the world won't be censored by their bullshit.

I suppose these are just ordinary guys like you and me who disliked a cartoon and so killed a bunch of people.

If everyone re printed the blasphemy of those threatened or murdered, it would face these assholes with the fact they won't kill us all.

I agree, that is what's needed. What do they do then, try and attack every newspaper everywhere ever? I think unless a bold statement like that is made, this crap is going to continue. It's time to stop tip toeing around this.

really? I'm happy that my newspapers are actually calling them Muslim radical terrorists - Still the word "radical" in the middle, but it's not bad. I'm trying to watch the news without repeatedly listening the situation in France and having a hard time. It seems this is worse than I've imagined... Wouldn't want to be in the French's shoes

(January 7, 2015 at 3:38 pm)robvalue Wrote: Don't call them muslim terrorist? What else can you call them? They're muslims who are terrorists. To pretend this has nothing to do with religion is just ridiculous.

Well, to be fair I'm assuming that is what they are. I don't know if their identity has been confirmed yet?

Quote:"I stopped calling these people Muslim terrorists,” Dean said on Morning Joe. ”They’re about as Muslim as I am.”
He also said he does not believe ISIS is an “Islamic cult” and thinks it would be unwise to “accord [the gunmen] any religious respect.”