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Our Long Lost Brothers....
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Our Long Lost Brothers....
the Neanderthals.


http://www.michaelshermer.com/2010/08/ou...-brethren/


Quote:Thus it is — revealing the identity of my example — that we must reclassify Homo neanderthalensis as Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, a subspecies of Homo sapiens. A comprehensive and technically sophisticated study published in the May 7 issue of Science, “A Draft Sequence of the Neandertal Genome,” by Max Planck Institute evolutionary anthropologists Richard E. Green, Svante Pääbo and 54 of their colleagues, demonstrates that “between 1 and 4% of the genomes of people in Eurasia are derived from Neandertals” and that “Neandertals are on average closer to individuals in Eurasia than to individuals in Africa.” In fact, the authors note, “a striking observation is that Neandertals are as closely related to a Chinese and Papuan individual as to a French individual…. Thus, the gene flow between Neandertals and modern humans that we detect most likely occurred before the divergence of Europeans, East Asians, and Papuans.” In other words, our anatomically hirsute cousins are actually our genetic brothers.


Another blow to this "made in gods image" shit.
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(August 12, 2010 at 11:42 am)Minimalist Wrote: Another blow to this "made in gods image" shit.
Why is that? This just confirms what creationists have always believed about Neanderthals.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles...anderthals


His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
Romans 1:20 ESV

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(August 12, 2010 at 1:33 pm)theophilus Wrote:
(August 12, 2010 at 11:42 am)Minimalist Wrote: Another blow to this "made in gods image" shit.
Why is that? This just confirms what creationists have always believed about Neanderthals.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles...anderthals

Wow that article was full of shit.

One assertion without proof after another.

and heres what actually happened according to THE EVIDENCE.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8660940.stm



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RE: Our Long Lost Brothers....
There is nothing in aig that is not full of shit. It is a site devoted to morons like Theo.
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RE: Our Long Lost Brothers....
Indeed, it's important people read this post: http://atheistforums.org/thread-4423.html
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin

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RE: Our Long Lost Brothers....
And so it begins......
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RE: Our Long Lost Brothers....
(August 12, 2010 at 11:42 am)Minimalist Wrote: Another blow to this "made in gods image" shit.

Excellent. I knew for awhile now that scientists were searching if this was possible. I'm surprised that we've uncovered this fact so quickly. It's absolutely fascinating that their species didn't completely die out, but instead is likely fully merged into modern humans.

It's absolutely astonishing that such a discovery (which doesn't appear to have really made much of a splash in the news - unsurprisingly) can so completely change just what it means to be human. Since I'm of european descent (because a cracker caucasian and all) that means that I too may also share that part of my genome with neaderthals.

Absolutely fascinating.
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RE: Our Long Lost Brothers....
(August 12, 2010 at 3:48 pm)Minimalist Wrote: And so it begins......

No one here is precisely what he appears.
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Fascinating! That was a really interesting read. It makes me wonder how many of other hominem sub groups are now part of our genome.

Thanks for sharing Min.



(August 12, 2010 at 1:33 pm)theophilus Wrote:
(August 12, 2010 at 11:42 am)Minimalist Wrote: Another blow to this "made in gods image" shit.
Why is that? This just confirms what creationists have always believed about Neanderthals.
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles...anderthals

Could you please explain this rather rash comment?

According to genesis we were created in gods image. So where does this tie in with having genes from Neanderthals are part of our genome?

A 1000 years ago nobody new that Neanderthals had existed, yet you seem to be implying that creationists ALWAYS knew about them. Explain please.

Or is this just another example of desperately trying to make valid and provable science fit into a deluded world view.

"A man who keeps one eye on the past is blind in one eye. A man who ignores the past is blind in both."
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RE: Our Long Lost Brothers....
(August 12, 2010 at 1:33 pm)theophilus Wrote:
(August 12, 2010 at 11:42 am)Minimalist Wrote: Another blow to this "made in gods image" shit.
Why is that? This just confirms what creationists have always believed about Neanderthals.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles...eanderthal

The thing I have trouble with is that ...
IF we are made in "gods image" like our own children WE are capable of gods abilities

and

IF we are "children of god" then what of the old stag when the young stag is grown??
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