Nope. I still refuse to believe that anti-vaccination crowd can read.

(February 9, 2015 at 6:31 am)pocaracas Wrote: That's one way to get Natural Selection to work... I guess....

Everything is, but not the way you might think. Not if they infect our offspring through their unvaccinated children.

(February 9, 2015 at 6:31 am)pocaracas Wrote: That's one way to get Natural Selection to work... I guess....

Harsh but accurate. If you follow the advice of loons, especially when there is plenty of good advice on the issue, you risk disaster.

The NHL (yes, the professional hockey league) had to deal with a mumps epidemic a few months back. Mumps! This is what happens when you have a population that didn't live through stuff like smallpox and polio and starts to wonder if vaccinations are all that important. The nuts and the snake-oil salesmen show up and things go to hell.

The part where people exist who are dumb enough not to vaccinate their kids isn't even the surprising part. I get that. How is being an anti-vaxxer legal? What happens when a restaurant doesn't meet the code for cleanliness? The place gets a warning or shut down. How is this any different with regards to public health and safety?

(February 9, 2015 at 6:34 am)Alex K Wrote:

(February 9, 2015 at 6:31 am)pocaracas Wrote: That's one way to get Natural Selection to work... I guess....

Everything is, but not the way you might think. Not if they infect our offspring through their unvaccinated children.

This is the thing! If it was just their kids it would be a simple matter of child abuse. But it's not, they're affecting everyone else by pissing the chance for herd immunity up the wall. You often see the analogy between vaccines and seat belts, a better one would be driving drunk, it's not just you, you endanger everyone else!

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(February 9, 2015 at 6:40 am)Exian Wrote: The part where people exist who are dumb enough not to vaccinate their kids isn't even the surprising part. I get that. How is being an anti-vaxxer legal? What happens when a restaurant doesn't meet the code for cleanliness? The place gets a warning or shut down. How is this any different with regards to public health and safety?

Ah, the Republicans are all over that one.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/02/04/r...hands.html

Quote: I don’t have any problem with Starbucks if they choose to opt out of this (hand washing) policy as long as they post a sign that says we don’t require our employees to wash their hands after leaving the restroom. The market will take care of that.

As a hopefully dad-to-be, this scares me as much as it angers me. We can't vaccinate babies until they've reached a certain age, and until then they are at the mercy of the herd.

(February 9, 2015 at 6:44 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote:

(February 9, 2015 at 6:34 am)Alex K Wrote: Everything is, but not the way you might think. Not if they infect our offspring through their unvaccinated children.

This is the thing! If it was just their kids it would be a simple matter of child abuse. But it's not, they're affecting everyone else by pissing the chance for herd immunity up the wall. You often see the analogy between vaccines and seat belts, a better one would be driving drunk, it's not just you, you endanger everyone else!

(February 9, 2015 at 6:44 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote:

(February 9, 2015 at 6:34 am)Alex K Wrote: Everything is, but not the way you might think. Not if they infect our offspring through their unvaccinated children.

This is the thing! If it was just their kids it would be a simple matter of child abuse. But it's not, they're affecting everyone else by pissing the chance for herd immunity up the wall. You often see the analogy between vaccines and seat belts, a better one would be driving drunk, it's not just you, you endanger everyone else!

Isn't vaccination supposed to help ward off the bug?

(February 9, 2015 at 6:47 am)Alex K Wrote: As a hopefully dad-to-be, this scares me as much as it angers me. We can't vaccinate babies until they've reached a certain age, and until then they are at the mercy of the herd.

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Yeah, you never feel fear like you feel it as a parent for your kids. You'd crawl over broken glass to spare them harm. And then this fucking nonsense endangers them!

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(February 9, 2015 at 6:48 am)pocaracas Wrote:

(February 9, 2015 at 6:44 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: This is the thing! If it was just their kids it would be a simple matter of child abuse. But it's not, they're affecting everyone else by pissing the chance for herd immunity up the wall. You often see the analogy between vaccines and seat belts, a better one would be driving drunk, it's not just you, you endanger everyone else!

Isn't vaccination supposed to help ward off the bug?

And so it does. But it's not individually 100% effective, and younglings and immunocomprimised kids won't have had it. Herd immunity works even with vaccines which are only partially effective

Jesus, these assholes have thought of everything. I imagine they have a problem with seatbelts and traffic lights as well.

(February 9, 2015 at 7:00 am)Exian Wrote: Jesus, these assholes have thought of everything. I imagine they have a problem with seatbelts and traffic lights as well.

Seatbelts wrinkle suits.
Traffic lights force you to stop and go, thus wasting gas.
DUH!