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Aoi Magi · February 13, 2015 at 2:17 pm

Apparently not being able to speak english is a criminal offense!
Well at least the rest of the cops didn't join in the beatdown, probably because he wasn't black.

**Faith No More** · (This post was last modified: February 13, 2015 at 2:26 pm by Faith No More.)

(February 13, 2015 at 1:01 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: I'd have to watch the video again but I don't think his hands were in a surrendering position.

Initially yes he has his hands in the air, he then for some reason runs away. In that situation you do one or the other, not both. And when he stops and turns his hands are definitely not in the air.

So, I watched it again, and yes his hands are not in the air, but they arestretched out forward where it's impossible to say that he was reaching for something. It's almost as if he's stretching his hands out to show them he doesn't have anything.

Regardless, I don't think there's going to be any way to legitimately pin this on the victim.

**Jackalope** · February 13, 2015 at 2:37 pm

(February 13, 2015 at 2:24 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(February 13, 2015 at 1:01 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: I'd have to watch the video again but I don't think his hands were in a surrendering position.

Initially yes he has his hands in the air, he then for some reason runs away. In that situation you do one or the other, not both. And when he stops and turns his hands are definitely not in the air.

So, I watched it again, and yes his hands are not in the air, but they arestretched out forward where it's impossible to say that he was reaching for something. It's almost as if he's stretching his hands out to show them he doesn't have anything.

Regardless, I don't think there's going to be any way to legitimately pin this on the victim.

Yeah, I rewatched it again, and yes, he didn't have his hands up after he turned and faced the officers. His hands were away from his body and he wasn't in a threatening posture at all as far as I could see. While there may have existed some legal justification at some point during the encounter - I'm not seeing it *at the time he was shot*.

IATIA · (This post was last modified: February 13, 2015 at 7:38 pm by IATIA.)

(February 12, 2015 at 4:20 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Pasco, Washington?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/12...K-combined

Quote:Pasco, Washington, police have killed more people than police in Germany and the UK combined

At some point you just have to reach the conclusion that American cops just love the idea of shooting people!

It looks like the cop that was handling the victim darted out of the way before the victim ran off and the shooter was already taking aim to shoot (waiting on his buddy to clear?). It appears the victim attempted to run off for fear of getting shot.

**Minimalist** · February 13, 2015 at 7:54 pm

Apparently with good reason.

**Minimalist** · February 14, 2015 at 12:29 pm

Bill Maher had a great show last night on Real Time. In this segment, he talks about the Washington case.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/bill-...rong-here/

**Minimalist** · February 14, 2015 at 3:51 pm

So, apparently,

http://jpupdates.com/2015/02/11/officer-...-shooting/

Quote:Liang and his partner were patrolling the Louis Pink Houses, where reports of violent crime had spiked. The hallways were “pitch black,” and Liang had his gun drawn as they descended onto an eighth-floor landing,

this cop was afraid of the dark. And he killed someone.

**Minimalist** · February 14, 2015 at 8:34 pm

Ah-ha...

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2015/0...-shooting/

Quote:Baltimore County Cop Shoots 14-Year-Old Boy in “Accidental” Shooting

Quote:Police said two county officers working off-duty at the Woodridge apartment complex, in the 9600 block of Southall Road, were investigating reports of people inside a vacant apartment. One of the off-duty officers told police that when he saw someone come out on a balcony of the apartment, the officer “was pointing the weapon in the direction of the balcony” when “his weapon discharged accidentally,” the department said in a statement.

So, the gun accidentally discharged when he pointed it at the kid and pulled the trigger? That isn't an accident. That's what they are designed to do. You'd think a fucking cop would know that.

**Minimalist** · February 15, 2015 at 12:22 am

Hey, this is turning into an epidemic.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/misso...report-it/

Quote:When confronted, the officer claimed that his gun had gone off accidentally."

You'd think with all their practice that the death merchants could build a gun that doesn't go off willy-nilly.

**Minimalist** · February 16, 2015 at 2:30 pm

You know...dashboard cameras aren't going to mean shit if every flat-foot can shut them off whenever they feel like it.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime...02459.html

Quote:Police dash cam shows part of contested arrest – until St. Louis officer turns camera off

At one point I count 9 cops around this guy stomping and kicking at him. It's like sharks in a feeding frenzy.

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