(February 26, 2015 at 9:27 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:

(February 25, 2015 at 9:32 pm)Beccs Wrote: Volunteered over Christmas in Sierra Leone to help combat ebola.

God gives everyone a conscience. Glad to to hear that you listened to the soft still voice and had the ability to act upon it. All that is left for you to do now is recognize the source of the voice and thank it.

Evolution gave people a conscience, but not everyone has one due to developmental differences, i.e. sociopaths and psychopaths.

(February 27, 2015 at 3:49 am)Godschild Wrote: Oh, so it's okay for you to dismiss God unproven things without proof...

Yes. This is literally the reason why you cannot be convicted of murder without someone proving you killed anybody.

GC, this has been explained to you over and over again. Im curious about something...


Of all the people on this forum, are you telling me that you consider yourself among the elite with regards to your critical thinking skills?


Statistically, we can't all be average, and so some members here will definitely excel while others will be a bit weaker in those areas.

I notice that you get the exact same things corrected over and over again. Yet, you are oblivious and continue on in error, ( just like your blatant disregard for the concept of The Burden of Proof above), while simultaneously lecturing 99% of the other members with incorrect information (see your conversation with Esquillax). Have you ever heard of the Dunning Kruger effect? You may want to consider whether or not you're being persuaded by it...

@Ignorant, sorry about post #228. It probably is very scrambled and hard to decipher. My mind was racing and thoughts kept repeating, but I didn't realize there was anything wrong until a few hours later.

So just ignore it. It's probably unreadable.

@GC
In case you don't see where I'm going here...

Im inviting you to personally appraise your own intelligence and, rank yourself on a 1-10 level. If you think you are among the top ten percent, give yourself a 1, if you are confident that compared to the other members you are average, take a 5, etc.

Of course, you don't have to tell me what your number is, but the implications are there whether you tell me or not...

I'm trying to get you to see that once you admit that there's a good chance that, when it comes to critically evaluating the intricacies of a complex idea, there are at least a few Atheists on this site who, at any moment in a disagreement, are right while you are wrong. And, you're not wrong because you're stupid. You're wrong because you incorrectly interpreted the information. Once you start recognizing that as a possibility, you can take the opportunity to learn from that experience. There are sometimes GC, where you are just blatantly wrong and seem content on being obtuse. If you can realize that you're not the smartest person on here, you can realize your next opportunity to learn something when that person, whoever they may be, starts trying to explain something to you. Just an idea. Take it or leave it...

(February 27, 2015 at 9:12 am)The Reality Salesman Wrote: Just an idea. Take it or leave it...

And elegantly stated. I'm putting a tenner on GC just disagreeing with you anyway.

(February 26, 2015 at 2:04 am)Godschild Wrote: [...] so get busy showing me the geologic column exist the same world wide and that no fossils are found out of place [...]

Anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of geology knows about plate tectonics, and what it does to strata:









In each of these instances, you'll see older strata above younger strata. What makes stratigraphy such good evidence of evolution is the fact that we can identify strata by chemical composition, and then when we analyze the fossils found therein, wee see the same basic flora and fauna.

It doesn't take much more study than that to learn about subduction zones, where older layers can be superimposed above younger ones as well:



This demand of your doesn't take into account the way the strata actually behave in real life.

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(February 26, 2015 at 5:39 pm)Ignorant Wrote:

(February 26, 2015 at 1:28 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: I think people of sound mind do. Do you want to be kicked in the face? No? Then don't do it to me.

What if you ask that question to a person and he says "yes, I want to be kicked in the face" instead of "no"? Is he just a statistical outlier . . . or is he wrong about what is good for him?

Do you kick him in the face?

Why are you asking me this? I said "I treat others the way I would like to be treated", not "I poll them and treat them the way that they answer".

(February 26, 2015 at 5:39 pm)Ignorant Wrote: Do you let him kick you in the face?

No, because even if he enjoys being kicked in the face himself, he has no right to physically assault anyone else. In case you're curious, the guiding principle is inflict no unnecessary harm.

(February 26, 2015 at 5:39 pm)Ignorant Wrote: How do you resolve the conflicts with the people whose minds you consider "not sound"? I am authentically curious.

I treat them as I would wish to be treated, that is to say, I listen to their complaint, take it into consideration, and if I can change my offending behavior I do so; if I can't ("what if your breathing offends him, Parkers?", right?) then I minimize his or her place in my life.

Why this should mystify you baffles me. This is pretty simple stuff.

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(February 26, 2015 at 9:27 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:

(February 25, 2015 at 9:32 pm)Beccs Wrote: Volunteered over Christmas in Sierra Leone to help combat ebola.

God gives everyone a conscience. Glad to to hear that you listened to the soft still voice and had the ability to act upon it. All that is left for you to do now is recognize the source of the voice and thank it.

I'm still waiting for an answer to my question, Chad.

(February 27, 2015 at 1:12 am)Chas Wrote:

(February 26, 2015 at 9:27 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: God gives everyone a conscience. Glad to to hear that you listened to the soft still voice and had the ability to act upon it. All that is left for you to do now is recognize the source of the voice and thank it.

Evolution gave people a conscience, but not everyone has one due to developmental differences, i.e. sociopaths and psychopaths.

You have proof of this I suppose, actually you need to prove evolution before making assertions about what it did.

GC

(February 27, 2015 at 4:29 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(February 27, 2015 at 1:12 am)Chas Wrote: Evolution gave people a conscience, but not everyone has one due to developmental differences, i.e. sociopaths and psychopaths.

You have proof of this I suppose, actually you need to prove evolution before making assertions about what it did.

GC

Our need to get along as a social species necessitates coming up with rules to get along together. These are morals. Morals most often fall apart when interacting with other groups, for instance when we executed japanese soldiers for waterboarding out troops in WW2, but our government claims waterboarding isn't torture when we do it to other people.

That is how morals come to be within a group, but also shows why they are subjective.

(February 27, 2015 at 8:53 am)The Reality Salesman Wrote:

(February 27, 2015 at 3:49 am)Godschild Wrote: Oh, so it's okay for you to dismiss God unproven things without proof...

Yes. This is literally the reason why you cannot be convicted of murder without someone proving you killed anybody.

GC, this has been explained to you over and over again. Im curious about something...


Of all the people on this forum, are you telling me that you consider yourself among the elite with regards to your critical thinking skills?


Statistically, we can't all be average, and so some members here will definitely excel while others will be a bit weaker in those areas.

I notice that you get the exact same things corrected over and over again. Yet, you are oblivious and continue on in error, ( just like your blatant disregard for the concept of The Burden of Proof above), while simultaneously lecturing 99% of the other members with incorrect information (see your conversation with Esquillax). Have you ever heard of the Dunning Kruger effect? You may want to consider whether or not you're being persuaded by it...

If you think I'm going to change my mind about evolution, then you're just plain mistaken, I know you have no proof, no proof has ever been presented nor will it ever be. If you want to live a delusion then be my guest, but I'm not going against the truth I know. It would be a betrayal to myself and the truth I know.

GC