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Evolution Theory - please show the proofs
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#62
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(August 24, 2010 at 7:22 pm)NoGodaloud ? Wrote: appear to derive..... that indicates just - guess what ?? guess work.....

Science does not produce sentences that say "There is absolutely certainty that..." If you want statements like that you have to turn to religion.
“Society is not a disease, it is a disaster. What a stupid miracle that one can live in it.” ~ E.M. Cioran
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#64
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(August 24, 2010 at 7:36 pm)NoGodaloud ? Wrote: The fact of the matter is that language is quintessentially a human trait. All attempts to shed light on the evolution of human language have failed—due to the lack of knowledge regarding the origin of any language, and due to the lack of an animal that possesses any ‘transitional’ form of communication. This leaves evolutionists with a huge gulf to bridge between humans with their innate communication abilities, and the grunts, barks, or chatterings of animals.

Failed to you, perhaps, but the evidence of animal language (another set of ignored scientific papers) has obviously been provided. In fact, the more we look, the more creatures of nature with some form of complicated social behavior and language has been emerging in more and more species.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925

Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
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RE: Evolution Theory - please show the proofs
(August 24, 2010 at 7:36 pm)NoGodaloud ? Wrote:
(August 24, 2010 at 7:29 pm)Entropist Wrote:
(August 24, 2010 at 7:22 pm)NoGodaloud ? Wrote: appear to derive..... that indicates just - guess what ?? guess work.....

Science does not produce sentences that say "There is absolutely certainty that..." If you want statements like that you have to turn to religion.

i completely agree with you.

You appear to have missed my point.
“Society is not a disease, it is a disaster. What a stupid miracle that one can live in it.” ~ E.M. Cioran
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#66
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Quote:If you want statements like that you have to turn to religion.



And religion is notoriously wrong when it does so!

But, simple answers for simple people.....oops, I mean for complex questions!

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RE: Evolution Theory - please show the proofs
(August 24, 2010 at 7:48 pm)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote: Failed to you, perhaps, but the evidence of animal language (another set of ignored scientific papers) has obviously been provided. In fact, the more we look, the more creatures of nature with some form of complicated social behavior and language has been emerging in more and more species.

there is a hudge difference between the chattering etc. of animals, and our abilitiy to think, to make choices, to explore our world, the universe, the microcosmos etc. Nothing of the animal world compares to the ability of human speech and thinking. you failed so far, to present conclusive and undeniable evidence, human speech arose through evolution. Your presented paper is guess work..... since you did not provide any other paper, i guess you want to throw the towel, right ?

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#69
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(August 24, 2010 at 7:52 pm)Minimalist Wrote: But, simple answers for simple people.....oops, I mean for complex questions!

Or, in other words: "We cannot pray to a god who is probably true. Prayer does not demean itself to subtleties nor tolerate distinctions within the Supreme: even when it doubts, it does so in the name of truth. We do not beseech a nuance." E.M. Cioran, from The New Gods

“Society is not a disease, it is a disaster. What a stupid miracle that one can live in it.” ~ E.M. Cioran
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RE: Evolution Theory - please show the proofs
(August 24, 2010 at 7:56 pm)NoGodaloud ? Wrote: there is a hudge difference between the chattering etc. of animals, and our abilitiy to think, to make choices, to explore our world, the universe, the microcosmos etc. Nothing of the animal world compares to the ability of human speech and thinking. you failed so far, to present conclusive and undeniable evidence, human speech arose through evolution. Your presented paper is guess work..... since you did not provide any other paper, i guess you want to throw the towel, right ?

I haven't failed to produce anything. It's easy to say I haven't produced evidence when you ignore the evidence I present. The papers I have are from people studying the field and the work is paper based on studies on reference to other studies and statements from experts in the field.

This entire 'discussion' is a farce, just as I have concluded from the other thread.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925

Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
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