(March 10, 2015 at 5:53 pm)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: Again, I tell you children are punished for the sins of the fathers to the third and fourth generation. It's a terrible thing, yes. The wrath of God is terrible indeed.

From wikipedia just for reference. Because that's basically what your god does. And quite a few humans, who obviously had the same sense of justice. I'm down on my knees to adore this very moment.

Quote: Sippenhaft or Sippenhaftung (English: "kin liability") refers to the principle of families sharing the responsibility for a crime committed by one of its members. A relative of the perpetrator could thus be punished in place of or in addition to the perpetrator, depending on the circumstances. As a legal principle, it is derived from Germanic law in the middle ages, there usually in the form of fines and compensations. The same principle is also found in many non-western cultures.

In modern totalitarian states it is one form of collective punishment, often used for harassment or extortion. Examples are communist East Germany and on a larger scale in Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia towards the end of the World War II. A contemporary example is North Korea.

(March 10, 2015 at 5:53 pm)MilesAbbott81 Wrote:

(March 10, 2015 at 5:31 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: I volunteer on a sexual assault response team. One of my colleagues was called to the forensic hospital one night to advocate for a thirteen-year-old rape victim. When my colleague got there, she noticed the front of her blouse was bleeding. The little girl told her the rapist (a family friend) bit her nipple off.

I wonder what a thirteen-year-old did to deserve that.

Again, I tell you children are punished for the sins of the fathers to the third and fourth generation. It's a terrible thing, yes. The wrath of God is terrible indeed.

Punished for the crimes of others.

If humans do it, it's a travesty. If "god" does it it's just.

The amount of mental gymnastics the religious have to go through to justify the evils of their deity never ceases to astound me.

If your god truly exists, it's the most evil creature that has ever existed.

If this is truly it's nature and it was proven to exist I would never worship such evil.

(March 10, 2015 at 5:53 pm)MilesAbbott81 Wrote:

(March 10, 2015 at 5:31 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: I volunteer on a sexual assault response team. One of my colleagues was called to the forensic hospital one night to advocate for a thirteen-year-old rape victim. When my colleague got there, she noticed the front of her blouse was bleeding. The little girl told her the rapist (a family friend) bit her nipple off.

I wonder what a thirteen-year-old did to deserve that.

Again, I tell you children are punished for the sins of the fathers to the third and fourth generation. It's a terrible thing, yes. The wrath of God is terrible indeed.

And you worship it. In my view, that makes you terrible as well. You are vile, and I'm done here.

(March 10, 2015 at 5:02 pm)Irrational Wrote: You can't know that every single person has done wrong in life.

Oh, but every christer does know that all others have done wrong in their life. After all, it sez so in da buy-bull!!

(March 10, 2015 at 6:01 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: You are vile, and I'm done here.

I was done with her a long time ago, but I still keep posting xD

(March 10, 2015 at 6:01 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: You are vile, and I'm done here.

That was the first thing going through my mind also. What a terrible person finds such a terrible god concept adorable?

(March 10, 2015 at 5:38 pm)Faith No More Wrote: What I'm failing to understand is how you claim on one hand that rape and murder are justice from God but on the other hand you claim to detest these actions. Why do you detest your all-knowing god's justice? Why would an all-powerful God use methods he detests to administer judgement?

The most burning question, though, is, can we expect any internal consistency from you?

I'm not sure what you mean by "internal consistency." The purpose of evil is to chastise, to humble, to teach righteousness. The harsher the methods involved, the greater the catharsis when healing comes.

Do you think God enjoyed being crucified? I'm sure He probably detested that as well.

This life, this world we live in, is pain. It is suffering. Some suffer more than others, and the suffering is often tragic. Yet, it is still temporary. For all the evil you ascribe to Him and to me, you cannot imagine the depth of His love for us all, or imagine how wonderful everyone's existence is going to be when all is accomplished.

When it is all over, we will all be free-thinking, righteous beings and evil will no longer exist. There will be no more pain or suffering anywhere.

Life is boot camp. It sucks, but the ends justifies the means.

Also, I wonder how many of you think I or the God I describe is even a fraction as evil as a god who sends people to Hell for all eternity, even to burn forever according to many of them.

(March 10, 2015 at 5:08 pm)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: Neither can you presume anyone's innocence.

The presumption of innocence is the proper foundation for any system of justice.

(March 10, 2015 at 6:01 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: And you worship it. In my view, that makes you terrible as well. You are vile, and I'm done here.

Luke 6:22
Blessed are you when men hate you, and ostracize you, and insult you, and scorn your name as evil, for the sake of the Son of Man.

(March 10, 2015 at 5:26 pm)MilesAbbott81 Wrote: What God does is use that evil to administer justice. As our Creator, it is His right to do so.

Him being our "creator" doesn't excuse fuck-all if you want us to believe it's a just, loving gawd.

Since gawd is using the rapist as a tool to punish the guilty, should the rapist be prosecuted by the law of the land?!?