(March 11, 2015 at 2:19 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(March 11, 2015 at 2:18 pm)Irrational Wrote: Sorry, GC, but I call BS.

SO, that makes it untrue, very logical me thinks, the logic I've come to expect from unbelievers.

GC

It makes unlikely to be true. You're not even making an effort to demonstrate that you do. That tells me a lot.

(March 11, 2015 at 1:54 pm)robvalue Wrote: Yes, religious beliefs do not mesh will with real medicine. We've had several topics about that recently, about parents who pull their children off of real treatment and put them onto insta-fail "alternative" treatments, basically murdering them. Because jesus talked to the child, apparently.

I do apologise for replying late, since I have only just got back from eating. Anyway, it would be a great idea to find out how many religious people in the developed world like Europe or the United States; actually think that religion will cure them and never go to a Doctor. I think we will find that religious people are more hypocritical than we think. They spew their beliefs and then go to the doctor because they have a runny nose. How many catholics make sure they get their flu jabs?

Oh yeah, many of them are utter hypocrites. They live their life just like an atheist. Which is great, I'm not complaining. I want them to be as far as possible away from their bible, because it makes them better people.

The only way they are not hypocrites is if they don't claim that the bible is divinely inspired. Then they're just sort of spiritual jesusites or something, vaguely calling themselves christian.

They "believe in believing" but clearly do not actually believe praying is gonna do shit, so they do it as an afterthought to real medicine.

(March 11, 2015 at 2:00 pm)abaris Wrote:

(March 11, 2015 at 1:50 pm)RobertE Wrote: I have been an Epileptic for a very long time and for me, the very symptoms in that story mirror those of epilepsy. This is short made me quite angry. I have heard many stories in where Catholics in Africa tried to exorcise those who had Epileptic seizures up until recently.

As with everything in life, christianity has introduced a whole new level of stupid. The ancient Greeks and Romans in their majority also connected epilepsy with spirits, but they also associated it with the presence of genius and the divine. There's one notable exemption though and that's Hippocrates, who rightfully assumed that it's an ailment originating in the brain.

Leave it to Christians to bring evil into it.

You could have just stated the bolded part and I would still have given you kudos. A very valid point, and I guess it is open to interpretation. I can remember telling a muslim that I had it, and she didn't want me working next to her, and that was back in 2010. Either way, the way I see it is this. Jesus, who probably your local neighbourhood joe with an education saw someone having a seizure and decided to go and help. He tried to restrain him and boom...2 minutes later, the kid is normal. Once this happened, everyone was amazed and thought he had some special powers. In reality, the seizure just took its natural course and that is that.

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(March 11, 2015 at 2:48 pm)robvalue Wrote: Oh yeah, many of them are utter hypocrites. They live their life just like an atheist. Which is great, I'm not complaining. I want them to be as far as possible away from their bible, because it makes them better people.

The only way they are not hypocrites is if they don't claim that the bible is divinely inspired. Then they're just sort of spiritual jesusites or something, vaguely calling themselves christian.

They "believe in believing" but clearly do not actually believe praying is gonna do shit, so they do it as an afterthought to real medicine.

There is a hint of a Mr Krauss coming out of you there...

(March 11, 2015 at 2:19 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(March 10, 2015 at 11:20 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: So, since you have this as fact, can I assume you have some evidence(*) you would like to share?


*Testable, verifiable evidence.

Not for you I don't, even if I told you, you would reject it because you would deem it whatever so you could deny it. Been here to long to not know most of your so called logical thinking.

GC

So, you got nothing then. 'Bout what I figured you'd actually be able to present.

(March 11, 2015 at 2:48 pm)robvalue Wrote: Oh yeah, many of them are utter hypocrites. They live their life just like an atheist. Which is great, I'm not complaining. I want them to be as far as possible away from their bible, because it makes them better people.

The only way they are not hypocrites is if they don't claim that the bible is divinely inspired. Then they're just sort of spiritual jesusites or something, vaguely calling themselves christian.

They "believe in believing" but clearly do not actually believe praying is gonna do shit, so they do it as an afterthought to real medicine.

I know a Christian who believes Bible is inspired (the over all story, theme, teachings) but that a lot of is untrue, for example, he disagrees what the Bible states about homosexuals.

(March 11, 2015 at 2:28 pm)Irrational Wrote:

(March 11, 2015 at 2:19 pm)Godschild Wrote: SO, that makes it untrue, very logical me thinks, the logic I've come to expect from unbelievers.

GC

It makes unlikely to be true. You're not even making an effort to demonstrate that you do. That tells me a lot.

I call you BS, does that mean you do not exist, hope, hope, hope.

GC

Robert, your humility is wonderful, like fresh air.
Welcome to AF.

(March 10, 2015 at 10:18 pm)Godschild Wrote: God is real, I know this as fact and no one can prove different and yes, you have a lot to learn about many things. Not trying to be unpleasant, just stating what I see in what you wrote.
Welcome to the forum.

GC

God is not real, I know this as fact and no one can prove different.

And welcome to the forum RobertE.

god IS imaginary.
god IS simply apart of your