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RE: Do we have any creationists here?
March 27, 2015 at 8:45 am
(March 27, 2015 at 8:41 am)professor Wrote: Hi Lemon, no I was not there for the creation of any atom or atoms.
I have done a lot of re-arranging of them into useful items (and some not so useful) as I am one who likes to make stuff.
They do not assemble themselves, by themselves.
I have total confidence in that.
Well the special things with atoms is they can create stuff. We are made of atoms and literally were made of star stuff.
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RE: Do we have any creationists here?
March 27, 2015 at 9:10 am
(March 27, 2015 at 8:41 am)professor Wrote: Hi Lemon, no I was not there for the creation of any atom or atoms.
I have done a lot of re-arranging of them into useful items (and some not so useful) as I am one who likes to make stuff.
They do not assemble themselves, by themselves.
I have total confidence in that.
I wonder how essential God's being the creator of every atom is to your conception of God. Why exactly do you believe that? If God works with some basic level of pre-existing stuff, does that really undermine what you look to God for?
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RE: Do we have any creationists here?
March 27, 2015 at 9:38 am
Good question Whateverist.
Even now, I consider that God can do some re-arranging. We would never know about it.
My view is all things (would include atoms) were created.
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RE: Do we have any creationists here?
March 27, 2015 at 9:39 am
(March 26, 2015 at 8:57 pm)Drich Wrote: I have been making fun of these clowns with pop culture references for three years! I've refuted long dry speeches with quotes from Mr. Miagi, yoda, vader, Forrest Gump, Lt. Dan, Martin Lawence, Optimus Prime and on and on.. And your the first person to ever notice! I think I'm going to have to rep you for being the smartest atheists on the board!
He's not the first to notice. He's just the first to give a shit.
God, I love how you are so delusional that you think you are just so deep and everything you say is just so far beyond what we simple atheists can fathom. You are a textbook case for a person being unable to understand their own limitations and how others actually perceive them. You are the male version of Sarah Palin.
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RE: Do we have any creationists here?
March 27, 2015 at 10:15 am
(March 27, 2015 at 8:41 am)professor Wrote: Hi Lemon, no I was not there for the creation of any atom or atoms.
I have done a lot of re-arranging of them into useful items (and some not so useful) as I am one who likes to make stuff.
They do not assemble themselves, by themselves.
I have total confidence in that.
Okay. Have you witnessed atoms coming together to form a object simply because they were commanded to?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Do we have any creationists here?
March 27, 2015 at 10:39 am
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(March 26, 2015 at 10:21 pm)watchamadoodle Wrote: (March 26, 2015 at 9:49 pm)Drich Wrote: 1 no, because the bible does not give an age to the planet, man does by counting back the very same genealogies we were specifically told not to bother with. Even so the bible does not tell us how old A&E was at the time of the fall.
2 A&E did not commit the orginal Sin, Satan did. And all men with souls did decent from them.
3 no. Adam was created by God, and from Adam's rib Eve was created.. As I recall, you believe there were humans who descended from Homo erectus, but these humans evolved outside the Garden of Eden. Then Adam and Eve joined this population of hominids and interbred. Then the flood wiped out all but Noah's family?
Assuming I got all that correct, did any of the humans on Noah's Ark descend from Homo erectus? Or did all their male and female ancestors descend from Adam and Eve? No, Adam's Children (he had boys and girls) did not have children together with each other. They married 'Monkey/evolved men.' Everyone after Adam's Children were a hybrid of God's personal creation, and of evolved/monkey man.
(March 26, 2015 at 10:53 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: (March 26, 2015 at 9:49 pm)Drich Wrote: 1 no, because the bible does not give an age to the planet, man does by counting back the very same genealogies we were specifically told not to bother with.
I never heard of that. Where are we told to not bother with the genealogies?
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1Tim 1:3 As I urged you when I went into Macedonia—remain in Ephesus that you may charge some that they teach no other doctrine, 4 nor give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which cause disputes rather than godly edification which is in faith. 5 Now the purpose of the commandment is love from a pure heart, from a good conscience, and from sincere faith, 6 from which some, having strayed, have turned aside to idle talk, 7 desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm.
(March 27, 2015 at 12:58 am)whateverist Wrote: Re: OP,
Yes, as hard as that is to believe, we really do get creationists posting here. Should be the easiest of the mindless orthodoxy to shed, but you'd be surprised the number of people who stick to it regardless of the disconnect with modernity.
(March 26, 2015 at 9:49 pm)Drich Wrote: 1 no, because the bible does not give an age to the planet, man does by counting back the very same genealogies we were specifically told not to bother with. Even so the bible does not tell us how old A&E was at the time of the fall.
2 A&E did not commit the orginal Sin, Satan did. And all men with souls did decent from them.
3 no. Adam was created by God, and from Adam's rib Eve was created..
Wait a minute, where do monkey men fit in again? Didn't you say god basically did an upgrade to a pro-hominid to make man?
Adam and Eve were created and placed in the Garden at the Dawn of creation, and stayed in the garden till the rest of the world 'Evolved/caught up' with them. The fall happened. Adam and eve were expelled from the garden and co-mingled with 'monkey/evolved man.'
(March 27, 2015 at 9:39 am)Faith No More Wrote: (March 26, 2015 at 8:57 pm)Drich Wrote: I have been making fun of these clowns with pop culture references for three years! I've refuted long dry speeches with quotes from Mr. Miagi, yoda, vader, Forrest Gump, Lt. Dan, Martin Lawence, Optimus Prime and on and on.. And your the first person to ever notice! I think I'm going to have to rep you for being the smartest atheists on the board!
He's not the first to notice. He's just the first to give a shit.
God, I love how you are so delusional that you think you are just so deep and everything you say is just so far beyond what we simple atheists can fathom. You are a textbook case for a person being unable to understand their own limitations and how others actually perceive them. You are the male version of Sarah Palin.
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RE: Do we have any creationists here?
March 27, 2015 at 11:22 am
(March 27, 2015 at 9:38 am)professor Wrote: Good question Whateverist.
Even now, I consider that God can do some re-arranging. We would never know about it.
My view is all things (would include atoms) were created.
But then in/of what did God exist before He created stuff like space, time and so forth. What was His childhood like? How did He go from -whatever- to all knowing?
Yeah I know, it's a mystery and beyond our limited powers to understand. But then why believe such a thing?
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RE: Do we have any creationists here?
March 27, 2015 at 11:24 am
Where did these "monkey men" come from?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Do we have any creationists here?
March 27, 2015 at 11:26 am
.. and more importantly, were there also monkey ladies in waiting, and, if so, how hot were they?
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RE: Do we have any creationists here?
March 27, 2015 at 11:28 am
Errr, well...
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"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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