(April 13, 2015 at 10:09 pm)Surgenator Wrote: You should take your own advice.

You are right I should. And I understand from your point of view, I have no knowledge of God existing or that Islam is true. 

(April 13, 2015 at 10:23 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:

(April 13, 2015 at 10:09 pm)Surgenator Wrote: You should take your own advice.

You are right I should. And I understand from your point of view, I have no knowledge of God existing or that Islam is true. 

And you sure as hell do not even truly know god or even if there is one. For one if there is a god the chances of him or her and or even it being the exact same type of being in every single "Holy" book and or books the chances are damn near low extremely low. And another thing too a god(s) would have no use for human emotion because for one it would be irrelevant to them to even have emotions. 

(April 13, 2015 at 9:59 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Forget the Abrahamic God. No one should accept a book he isn't convinced of. No one should worship a Lord they find ugly.

If the book you read you find God ugly in it, then don't believe in the book or worship the God depicted by it.

"Don't follow that which you have no knowledge of"- Quran.

But also don't make your uncertain opinions as absolute. Don't rely on conjecture.

I don't.

Hence the fact that I'm an atheist and have no interest in any deities.

(April 13, 2015 at 10:30 pm)dyresand Wrote:

(April 13, 2015 at 10:23 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: You are right I should. And I understand from your point of view, I have no knowledge of God existing or that Islam is true. 

And you sure as hell do not even truly know god or even if there is one. For one if there is a god the chances of him or her and or even it being the exact same type of being in every single "Holy" book and or books the chances are damn near low extremely low. And another thing too a god(s) would have no use for human emotion because for one it would be irrelevant to them to even have emotions. 

If God doesn't exist, how come you have so much knowledge about it?

(April 13, 2015 at 10:35 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:

(April 13, 2015 at 10:30 pm)dyresand Wrote: And you sure as hell do not even truly know god or even if there is one. For one if there is a god the chances of him or her and or even it being the exact same type of being in every single "Holy" book and or books the chances are damn near low extremely low. And another thing too a god(s) would have no use for human emotion because for one it would be irrelevant to them to even have emotions. 

If God doesn't exist, how come you have so much knowledge about it?

Because we as humans created the idea that a god exists and written him down in so many different ways its not even funny. 
The first gods to be created by man was in Hinduism. So my next thing would be why aren't you worshiping Shiva, Krishna, Lakshima, Brahma the creator.
Because going by age wise Hinduism is the worlds oldest surviving religion. In fact Hinduism started because of Dravidianism and that was around in Babylonian days. So how is Islam, Judaism, Christianity, Mormonsim, ETC have exact information on god how is there guesses more true than something that is far older ask yourself that. Compare contrast because literally the gods in Hinduism are far more peaceful and kind; Vishnu vs Yaweh... i'd rather hang around Vishnu for eternity he doesn't want to be worshiped for eternity not unless you want to and even then you get to do what ever. 

(April 13, 2015 at 11:11 pm)dyresand Wrote:

(April 13, 2015 at 10:35 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If God doesn't exist, how come you have so much knowledge about it?

Because we as humans created the idea that a god exists and written him down in so many different ways its not even funny. 

So we created the idea, but you know if a God exists, he would be such and such and not do such and such, how do you get this knowledge of what would be the true God if he doesn't exist and we made it all up?

(April 13, 2015 at 11:23 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:

(April 13, 2015 at 11:11 pm)dyresand Wrote: Because we as humans created the idea that a god exists and written him down in so many different ways its not even funny. 

So we created the idea, but you know if a God exists, he would be such and such and not do such and such, how do you get this knowledge of what would be the true God if he doesn't exist and we made it all up?

I never said i know of a god to exist i just know of the god(s) that we as humans created. If i known there was god(s) i wouldn't be a atheist.
No one would a atheist for that matter. Also there is dichotomy for a true god then at least give a solid piece that yours exist and not the others with evidence.
If you were to say to a Hindu that your god is the one true god, he would laugh at you.
HTruth is its all equally bullshit. The thing is i would play favorites Hinduism is the best best religion out there in the sense its the most peaceful.
Christianity, Judism, Islam, Muslim belief sets all have doctrines on how to have a war and what to do to people. 

Yaweh kills billions of people. Creates evil and lets the devil exist. lets bad shit happen because "Free will", kills billions of people - 0/10 for effort

Kali the Hindu god of war doesn't fuck around and kills a demon. Along with the other gods cares about humans and does shit. 10/10 actually helpful 

(April 14, 2015 at 12:14 am)dyresand Wrote:

(April 13, 2015 at 11:23 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: So we created the idea, but you know if a God exists, he would be such and such and not do such and such, how do you get this knowledge of what would be the true God if he doesn't exist and we made it all up?

I never said i know of a god to exist i just no of the god(s) that we as humans created. If i known there was god(s) i wouldn't be a atheist.
No one would a atheist for that matter. 

Avoiding the question. The rest of your post is more red herring. 
You know if God existed, he would not communicate to humanity. How? How do you know that?
You know if God existed, it would have no emotion, like love. How? How do you know that?
Please no more red herrings.

(April 14, 2015 at 12:22 am)MysticKnight Wrote:

(April 14, 2015 at 12:14 am)dyresand Wrote: I never said i know of a god to exist i just no of the god(s) that we as humans created. If i known there was god(s) i wouldn't be a atheist.
No one would a atheist for that matter. 

Avoiding the question. The rest of your post is more red herring. 
You know if God existed, he would not communicate to humanity. How? How do you know that?
You know if God existed, it would have no emotion, like love. How? How do you know that?
Please no more red herrings.

1. The bible and any religions people misinterpret the writing. god is supposed to be all knowing he should have made it simple to read
instead of whole back story like. I exist don't question it yada yada yada. Or even at least pop in say something or what ever and move on. 

2. It's highly illogical for a being that knows everything to have emotion. If you literally think about knowing everything would have a really negative affect with emotion.
Its like when you are a child and you realize one day you are going to die now think about all the living things in the universe dying your own children at that. Yeah a god 
wouldn't have emotion.

The only reason why god in the bible has emotion is because man written the bible and every holy document out there.
There is no conclusive evidence for a god that is up to you to find out not me. And the thing is if a god did want to communicate with humanity he could it now.
He should do it now like a mass popup message on everyone's electronics or even just appearing but no the only thing written down was him appearing to ancient man.
And then you have to question that, it really doesn't make any sense none of it does. 

And in closing you are looking for truth in the mud you're not going to find it. You are going to have more questions than answers stop digging in the mud all you will dig up is more mud.
Question your beliefs find and really dig for information on the inconsistencies because i can tell you for certain we weren't created by god. The universe wasn't created by god.
And the best thing you could possibly do is do a little research in Big bang theory and also Evolution maybe some chemistry and that should be it for the most part. Also get some science books
Because anyone can say that god exists then quickly say oh because its written in the book so it has to be true. The fact is you are saying to me you know if god exists this and that.
If i really known if a god did exist we wouldn't be having this conversation.

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(April 14, 2015 at 12:22 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Avoiding the question. The rest of your post is more red herring. 
You know if God existed, he would not communicate to humanity. How? How do you know that?
You know if God existed, it would have no emotion, like love. How? How do you know that?
Please no more red herrings.

1. The bible and any religions people misinterpret the writing. god is supposed to be all knowing he should have made it simple to read instead of whole back story like. I exist don't question it yada yada yada. Or even at least pop in say hell or what ever and move on. 

More knowledge about God I see. So how do you know he should force all of humanity to interpret his words properly or otherwise he would not communicate?

Quote:2. It's highly illogical for a being that knows everything to have emotion. If you literally think about knowing everything would have a really negative affect with emotion.

No I clearly don't see that with thinking about it. You seem to know that God can't handle knowledge where he to be all-good loving being. How do you know that?

Quote:Yeah a god 
wouldn't have emotion.

So why did it give you emotion and love, and make us value emotion and love?