(June 5, 2015 at 4:08 pm)TheMessiah Wrote: Modern Western Feminism is a man-hating cult. Now that legal equality has been achieved

 

In every instance, every circumstance, and every nation?

Quote:I'm an Egalitarian

an egalitarian and a feminist is pretty much two different labels for the same thing

(June 5, 2015 at 4:08 pm)TheMessiah Wrote:

(June 5, 2015 at 4:05 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: What is your definition of "feminism"?  How do you define "anti-feminist"?

Modern Western Feminism is a man-hating cult. Now that legal equality has been achieved, most of Feminism is focused on un-falsifiable theories, much like religion, claims which cannot be proven - like ''rape culture''

Hence, I oppose illogic, thus I oppose Feminism.

I'm an Egalitarian

That's not what I asked.  Please define "feminism" and "anti-feminism".

(June 5, 2015 at 4:19 pm)Losty Wrote: ...

an egalitarian and a feminist is pretty much two difference labels for the same thing

Yes, exactly.

Here is the definition of "feminism" from the most respected dictionary of English:

"The advocacy of women’s rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes."

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/defini...ctCode=all

I read this somewhere else and I don't remember who said it so forgive me for the plagiarism.

There are two simple questions that will tell you if you are a feminist.
1) Do you believe that all people should have equal rights, liberties and freedoms?
2) Do you believe that women are people?

If you answer yes to both questions, then you are a feminist.

I am going to answer questions on page 2 first and then Dypostia's.

(June 5, 2015 at 4:23 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:

(June 5, 2015 at 4:19 pm)Losty Wrote: ...

an egalitarian and a feminist is pretty much two difference labels for the same thing

Yes, exactly.

Here is the definition of "feminism" from the most respected dictionary of English:

"The advocacy of women’s rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes."

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/defini...ctCode=all

This is exactly why Feminism is not Egalitarianism. Feminism is based on the premise that women are less equal than men, and thus, furthering the rights of women = equality.

Egalitarianism is based on equality and is gender neutral. It advocates both men and women rights, if Feminism was about equality, then why does the definition say ''women's rights'' and not both men and women?

(June 5, 2015 at 4:29 pm)Losty Wrote: I read this somewhere else and I don't remember who said it so forgive me for the plagiarism.

There are two simple questions that will tell you if you are a feminist.
1) Do you believe that all people should have equal rights, liberties and freedoms?
2) Do you believe that women are people?

If you answer yes to both questions, then you are a feminist.

Yes to both, but I can't call myself a Feminist.

(June 5, 2015 at 4:21 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:

(June 5, 2015 at 4:08 pm)TheMessiah Wrote: Modern Western Feminism is a man-hating cult. Now that legal equality has been achieved, most of Feminism is focused on un-falsifiable theories, much like religion, claims which cannot be proven - like ''rape culture''

Hence, I oppose illogic, thus I oppose Feminism.

I'm an Egalitarian

That's not what I asked.  Please define "feminism" and "anti-feminism".

Anti-Feminism is opposed to Feminism in it's current form.

Feminism in it's current form is a cult.

Atheism turned me to anti-Feminism; Amazing Atheist and Thunderf00t helped me do that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlSh6wBXePM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Ju-1I1DTU

The successful continuance of this thread hinges entirely on your definitions of "feminism" and "anti-feminism". Look at my title next to my avatar. I'm relentless, so you might as well get to it.

(June 5, 2015 at 4:18 pm)Dystopia Wrote:

Quote:Rape culture is just a theory - there's no evidence that rape is embedded in Western culture. Maybe Islamic countries, but Feminists don't hate Islam.

Replace it with "evolution" and see how ridiculous it sounds (P.S. - I'm a law student so it's not like I'm not familiarized with how the justice system works)

Quote:Sure, there may be some inequalities; but Feminism isn't equality. It's in the name, Feminism is female entilement, which leads to male inequality.

And chemistry is chemicals feeling entitled? Your point being? Do you want every group to include you in it and are you going to whine infinitely about it? do you think Metallica is heavy metal entitled and therefore dismissive of pop music? And why is this relevant?

Quote:Both females and males are unequal in some areas.

Well biological sex obviously means there's a penis and a vagina, and you can find differences in physical strength that are grossly exaggerated and become irrelevant with technology - I see no reason to think there are any other differences specially considering the fact gender is mostly a social construct and there tends to not be a clear line between male, female, queer, trans, etc.

Okay....the first comparison is just messed up.

Evolution is a Scientific explanation for how we came to be - it is backed up by masses of Scientific evidence and has been held up to scrutiny and analysis; Evolution is a fact just like The Earth is not flat.

''Rape culture'' is a theory - that society glorifies rape, which for the west, isn't true - this theory stems from Sociology, it's not Scientific and it cannot be compared to Evolution.

If it was about equality, it'd be Egalitarian - instead, it's advocates women's rights; it's just the same as MRA's, it's why polls found 20% of women identify as Feminists, despite more than 90% believing in equality

Males are unequal in child-care issues whereas females lack representation in other issues; also, gender is not a social construct, it's influenced by our evolutionary history

(June 5, 2015 at 4:50 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: The successful continuance of this thread hinges entirely on your definitions of "feminism" and "anti-feminism". Look at my title next to my avatar. I'm relentless, so you might as well get to it.

Are you trying to bait me into giving the dictionary definition of Feminism?

The advoacy of women's rights on the ground of equality of sexes

However the term is largely out-dated.