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Religious Freedom
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 (September 30, 2010 at 7:52 am)Zen Badger Wrote:(September 29, 2010 at 11:59 pm)Godschild Wrote: You are right Min however that's not the way true christianity works. Read the Bible you will find the answer there. 
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
That's the problem, there have been thousands of different conclusions reached from the bible, you need to not just insist that you are the one who has it right, you need to demonstrate it.
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 (October 2, 2010 at 1:36 am)Godschild Wrote: Read the Bible you will find the answer there. I have and I've reached the conclusion that god is a genocidal loonie with father figure issues and so ignorant that he doesn't know that bats are mammals and not birds. Is that the answer you arrived at? ![[Image: mybannerglitter06eee094.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i118.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo112%2Fpussinboots_photos%2FBikes%2Fmybannerglitter06eee094.gif) If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.  (September 25, 2010 at 11:13 am)FadingW Wrote: It is said that people choose to believe and so also choose not to believe. I don't see how this isn't the case. Either you believe something to be true or you don't. You can certainly choose to believe something to be true for any reason. It doesn't always necessarily mean you'd be right but it does mean that belief is a choice.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925 Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan RE: Religious Freedom
October 2, 2010 at 10:16 am
(This post was last modified: October 2, 2010 at 10:25 am by Godscreated.)
(October 2, 2010 at 3:19 am)Zen Badger Wrote:(October 2, 2010 at 1:36 am)Godschild Wrote: Read the Bible you will find the answer there. To answer your question even though you already know what it is NO!!!! Why do you think that God doesn't know what a bat is? (October 2, 2010 at 2:12 am)theVOID Wrote: That's the problem, there have been thousands of different conclusions reached from the bible, you need to not just insist that you are the one who has it right, you need to demonstrate it. No one has it completely correct and only a fool would say so, I do believe I understand what it teaches and will continue until someone or God shows me differently. The reason there are so many different interputations of the scriptures, because many want God to fit their lives and it just doesn't work that way. We are to model our lives after Christ and so many just do not want to sacrifice who they think they are for who God knows they can be.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
  Quote:Read the Bible you will find the answer there. I've read it. It's fucking bullshit. And the people who push it most tend to be the biggest bullshitters.  Quote:Godschild Wrote: Read the Bible you will find the answer there. I did and 'it' isn't. People who think there is such a thing as THE answer don't understand the questions. 
RE: Religious Freedom
October 9, 2010 at 6:21 am
(This post was last modified: October 9, 2010 at 6:24 am by Zen Badger.)
(October 2, 2010 at 10:16 am)Godschild Wrote:(October 2, 2010 at 3:19 am)Zen Badger Wrote:(October 2, 2010 at 1:36 am)Godschild Wrote: Read the Bible you will find the answer there. Because your bible says so buddy, To whit, Leviticus 11:13 to 11:19 11:13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls ; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray, 11:14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind; 11:15 Every raven after his kind; 11:16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind, 11:17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl, 11:18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle, 11:19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat. And just in case you are not up on your bible studies, this is god speaking directly to Moses. If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71. |
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