(September 24, 2010 at 3:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:People don't just believe in crap for the sake of it.

Of course they do. How do you think republicans get elected?

See: current U.S. President; also, "I did not have sex with that woman."

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Quote:People don't just believe in crap for the sake of it.

Ever heard of superstitons?

Coz thats all people believing in crap for no good reason, fortunately I dont have any and, touch wood, never will.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstition

(September 23, 2010 at 10:15 pm)IceSage Wrote:

(September 23, 2010 at 9:13 pm)jason56 Wrote: No. Religion is slightly more perfected than the idea of the flying spaghetti monster and leprechauns.

It holds about the same weight, I agree with you, but religion is a well established part of our evolution.

Think about the mindset of the first humans who came up with the idea.

I have, and you answered your statement towards me, for me. That's just it, it's an idea.

What makes you think religion is "perfected" (which it's not) and is a "more perfected" idea than any other irrational belief? Because it has a book? Because people have followed it for many, many years?

By perfected I meant honed or crafted, I didn't say religion was perfect full stop. As in the greatest story ever told. As opposed to Santa Claus which isn't even meant to stand up in court, it's a bit of fun for kids.

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Cannibalism has been around since tens of thousands of years before YOU were born also, but this is not tens of thousands of years ago, this is after you have been born. Would you care to respect the place of cannibalism in our evolution and allow some people's evolutionary cannibal instinct to impact you?


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If a remote tribe was discovered to be eating human flesh, I'd forgive them sooner than I would Jeffrey Dalmer.

Same shit, better excuse.

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(September 24, 2010 at 4:04 am)IceSage Wrote:

(September 23, 2010 at 11:14 pm)jason56 Wrote: Of course it's an idea. but it's an idea that primitive man came up with long before you were born.

Respect religions place in our evolution at least.

Even if it is sh************t.

(shit)

Even though religion's past isn't part of our "evolution," going by your logic... Then sure. I should also be thankful and totally accept the many deaths in the world, Hitler, all the wars, etc.

Remember! Without Hitler, you would be who you are today, jason56. Remember, it's part of your evolution. (Somehow)

Sure, you could argue that everything is evolution in that context and not just simply history, but I don't believe we COULD be here today without religion - as opposed to Hitler, landing on the moon or Janet Jackson's tit popping out. Religion is a tool that has aided our success as a species as much as it has harmed us. In many ways it's like a side effect to being a human. Why will the same person believe in a God but not a giant talking tree? You can compare them in an argument against both, but believe me, it's not the same thing.

Know your enemy before you try to disarm them.

but carry on. I like the idea of an atheist website and I'm glad I found this place. and I don't mean to offend anyone or disrespect their opinion. If I come across as sounding arrogant, it's mainly because I consider myself to be better than you.


Now, Jesus; how did he change the molecular structure of the water molecule to allow it to support his mass?

Can someone answer that or can I cross that bit out of my bible?

(October 3, 2010 at 6:43 pm)jason56 Wrote: Now, Jesus; how did he change the molecular structure of the water molecule to allow it to support his mass?

Can someone answer that or can I cross that bit out of my bible?

The answer: He didn't.

My hypothesis: Crushed, dried up grapes formed into powder.

(October 4, 2010 at 2:51 am)IceSage Wrote: My hypothesis: Crushed, dried up grapes formed into powder.

My Hypothesis... it was the dead sea he walked across. An atheist could perform that miracle. ;-)

(October 4, 2010 at 2:51 am)IceSage Wrote: but I don't believe we COULD be here today without religion

Absolutely agree. I think we would already have had colonies in space and beyond without religion slowing us down throughout the centuries.

(October 4, 2010 at 7:25 am)Loki_999 Wrote:

(October 4, 2010 at 2:51 am)IceSage Wrote: but I don't believe we COULD be here today without religion

Absolutely agree. I think we would already have had colonies in space and beyond without religion slowing us down throughout the centuries.

I don't remember making this post... Either that or I made a major typo. Or I'm reading it out of context. And you're answering it out of context...

Jason56 wrote that, not I. =P

Lol I can't beleive this topic is still around.

(October 4, 2010 at 12:00 pm)Watson Wrote: Lol I can't beleive this topic is still around.

Me either.

(October 4, 2010 at 9:44 am)IceSage Wrote:

(October 4, 2010 at 7:25 am)Loki_999 Wrote:

(October 4, 2010 at 2:51 am)IceSage Wrote: but I don't believe we COULD be here today without religion

Absolutely agree. I think we would already have had colonies in space and beyond without religion slowing us down throughout the centuries.

I don't remember making this post... Either that or I made a major typo. Or I'm reading it out of context. And you're answering it out of context...

Jason56 wrote that, not I. =P

Ooops, my bad. It was quotes within quotes and i must have snipped the wrong bit.

So... does anyone have any evidence god exists?

95 pages later someone finally gets to the point!