It doesn't actually matter to Chad whether or not he began on a fraudulent note, obviously.  That wasn't important when he posted it, it remains unimportant now. He's whipped it out, worked it like it owed him money, and shot it all over the place. Mission accomplished. With any luck he'll put it back in his pants now, until the next time he feels an urge, anyway.

Careful what you put in bold, deary. Why would someone say "so as not to be perceived" unless the actuality is something different.

(July 15, 2015 at 2:01 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Careful what you put in bold, deary. Why would someone say "so as not to be perceived" unless the actuality is something different.

Unlike Live Action Video, I try to show the actual story warts and all.

The doctor has reason to worry about the perception that body part are being sold at a profit.  Once you've been accused a few dozen times, perception does become a worry.

Quote: Live Action is already notorious for its attempted “stings” on Planned Parenthood.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/201..._they.html


None of which have panned out so far, which is why they gave the credit to The Center for Medical Progress (apparently stopping medical research using fetal material is progress).

(July 15, 2015 at 2:01 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Careful what you put in bold, deary. Why would someone say "so as not to be perceived" unless the actuality is something different.

So having been shown to once again be a screaming fool, you resort to snarky pebble-throwing. You stay classy kid.

(July 15, 2015 at 1:22 pm)Faith No More Wrote:

(July 15, 2015 at 12:58 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: African-Americans account for 12% of the population and yet get 35% of abortions. And we wonder why the black population in America is declining. PP's doing a very good job of fulfilling Margaret Sanger's vision. Supporting PP is akin to supporting the genocide of minorities.

You what a more relevant statistic is?  That the poverty rate for the nation is 15% yet for blacks it is over 25%.  Of course they're going to have more abortions.  They have less access to proper education and contraception.  No eugenics is needed to explain the facts. I'd say if you're really concerned about minorities, you should be promoting programs that educate them and give them the tools to keep them from getting pregnant in the first place.  It's a much more practical position than just insisting every woman carry a pregnancy full term.

Now, do you have any evidence to back up this racist conspiracy, or should we just dismiss you as the raving lunatic you appear to be?

There is actually a lot that people like Chad can do to help lower the rates of abortion. They could push for the government to provide free birth control, comprehensive sex education and perhaps free daycare. The reason that they don't push for such programs is because the concern isn't ultimately about stopping abortion but about making certain that they can tell which women to shame

The red states scream about abortions and teen pregnancy, but also have the highest rates (as well as divorce) because they refuse the solutions to the problem. Some people realize that sex is normal, and teens and young adults are going to do it anyway, so educate them and provide them with birth control. If all else fails, have clinics that can abort pregnancies before the fetus develops a brain or nervous system.

More reasons why it makes no sense for someone like Chad to support programs that reduce poverty

Quote: Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children).

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

A lot of pro life individuals(not everyone) are against programs that help the poor.

So, Chad, are you for things like free birth control or a comprehensive, non abstinence based sex education for students? What about free day care for poor women who decide to not have abortions but would like to work or go to school?

“Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race.” - Margaret Sanger

“It is said that the aboriginal Australian, the lowest known species of the human family, just a step higher than the chimpanzee in brain development, has so little sexual control that police authority alone prevents him from obtaining sexual satisfaction on the streets.” – Margaret Sanger

“Our highest honor, the Planned Parenthood Federation of America Margaret Sanger Award, is presented annually to recognize leadership, excellence, and outstanding contributions to the reproductive health and rights movement.” – Planned Parenthood Website

“Now, I have to tell you that it was a great privilege when I was told that I would receive this award. I admire Margaret Sanger enormously, her courage, her tenacity, her vision ...” – Hillary Clinton

Racism start, Racist Award, and Praise for the racist "vision".

Now to the next charge...of course the video was edited. Who's going to watch a two hour video. Speaking of editing, Jenny, you forgot to include the ethicist's response in the very same article:

"Caplan told CNN's Elizabeth Cohen that altering procedures in order to get tissue in the best condition would be a "big no-no."

"In abortion the primary goal is to give the safest abortion possible," he said. "Your sole concern has to be the mother and her health."

If it's true, it's illegal, and so the crying about "What kind of country allows this kind of inhumanity to continue?" is vapid horseshit -- the country doesn't allow it, dumbfuck.

But I'll definitely need to see much more than a video heavily edited to sculpt a talking point from a luncheon.

(July 15, 2015 at 1:21 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: And if you would like to post the link to that image for validation, that'd be great. I find it hard to believe one could peruse baby livers on the internet, anyhow.

I ran it through google's imagesearch, and came up with two hits, one a "brazilian butt" site, the other a spanish-language weather website ... didn't see the image on either one, but I didn't dig through all their pages either.

(July 15, 2015 at 1:31 am)Minimalist Wrote: Reminds me of the Breitbart scam that they pulled on ACORN.  And the righties ate up it up because it tells them what they want to hear.  They get that routine from their fucking bible.

According to the Snopes article, the guy who put out this video has connections with those assholes.

(July 15, 2015 at 3:09 pm)Nope Wrote: More reasons why it makes no sense for someone like Chad to support programs that reduce poverty

Quote: Forty-two percent of women obtaining abortions have incomes below 100% of the federal poverty level ($10,830 for a single woman with no children).

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

A lot of pro life individuals(not everyone) are against programs that help the poor.

So, Chad, are you for things like free birth control or a comprehensive, non abstinence based sex education for students? What about free day care for poor women who decide to not have abortions but would like to work or go to school?

Many who label themselves as "pro-life" are actually more accurately described as "forced-birthers" since they want to force women to have kids but don't give a rat's arse about what happens to the kids, or their parents, after they're born.  Hence, as we see among many conservative politicians, they're against abortion but also undermine or remove the support structures for the poor, those more likely to have abortions because they can't support their families as it is.

Many are also against birth control, sex education, and any attempts to lift the struggling people out of poverty - just look at their fights against raising the minimum wage.

But when confronted, they don't actually answer the questions or charges put to them, they just post more soundbites and quotes, lay more charges, and attempt to muddy the discussion more.

Right, Woots?