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Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
Randy Carson Offline
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RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
July 25, 2015 at 12:11 pm
(July 25, 2015 at 12:08 pm)Spooky Wrote: Holy dogshit! This thread is still going?

Randy, do you not realize you have proven nothing?

Do you realize that you have not refuted a single one of my five points? [Image: ani_dancing.gif]
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July 25, 2015 at 12:12 pm
(July 25, 2015 at 11:59 am)abaris Wrote:
(July 25, 2015 at 11:58 am)KevinM1 Wrote: Wait... is Randy really saying that if historical Jesus existed, then he must have been miraculous and divine?  Because that's patently idiotic.  And it's not at all what his playing deck of academic sources are getting at.

Did you expect anything less from a person who can't even make a distinction between fact and hearsay?

That's just amazing to me.  I mean, most scholars believe that Gautama Buddha existed historically, but that doesn't mean he actually found true enlightenment or that nirvana actually exists outside of a vague concept.
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RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
July 25, 2015 at 12:14 pm
(July 25, 2015 at 12:08 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Some people deny the holocaust. Other deny that Jesus even existed. 60-70% of this forum's members are in this camp according to a recent poll.

Don't try to equivocate the two positions. The former is thoroughly documented, some of our elderly lived through the experience.

You may disagree with those that conclude that Jesus never existed, but the position is not unreasonable given the paltry evidence.
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RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
July 25, 2015 at 12:15 pm (This post was last modified: July 25, 2015 at 12:16 pm by LastPoet.)
Why isn't the buda shitstain here fighting along with randy. Oh wait....
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RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
July 25, 2015 at 12:16 pm
(July 25, 2015 at 12:07 pm)Losty Wrote:
(July 25, 2015 at 11:56 am)Randy Carson Wrote: Just remember that too many delicious cookies will have a negative impact on a delicious body.

Don't worry most of the really fun sins are great for burning calories Big Grin


Someone smarter than me tell me what the difference between a historian and a NT scholar is please.

A historian is simply someone who studies history. For example, a historian may be an expert on the American Revolution or the Middle Ages.

A New Testament scholar is someone who specializes in the books of the New Testament; this requires knowledge not only of the history of the period before, during and after their authorship but also of ancient languages, the history and culture of the people, knowledge of the theories of authorship and the text themselves, of course, among other things.
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RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
July 25, 2015 at 12:17 pm
(July 25, 2015 at 12:11 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:
(July 25, 2015 at 12:08 pm)Spooky Wrote: Holy dogshit! This thread is still going?

Randy, do you not realize you have proven nothing?

Do you realize that you have not refuted a single one of my five points? [Image: ani_dancing.gif]

I have done so on multiple occasions.  Dead Horse
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RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
July 25, 2015 at 12:18 pm
(July 25, 2015 at 12:14 pm)Cato Wrote:
(July 25, 2015 at 12:08 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Some people deny the holocaust. Other deny that Jesus even existed. 60-70% of this forum's members are in this camp according to a recent poll.

Don't try to equivocate the two positions. The former is thoroughly documented, some of our elderly lived through the experience.

Sure. But you do acknowledge that there are holocaust deniers out there, right?

Quote:You may disagree with those that conclude that Jesus never existed, but the position is not unreasonable given the paltry evidence.

Not by those who have done their homework. As Ehrman right notes, this is largely an Internet-based phenomenon.
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RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
July 25, 2015 at 12:19 pm
(July 25, 2015 at 12:17 pm)Spooky Wrote:
(July 25, 2015 at 12:11 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Do you realize that you have not refuted a single one of my five points? [Image: ani_dancing.gif]

I have done so on multiple occasions.  Dead Horse

Provide the links to what you feel are your best arguments, and I will address them again. None were memorable, obviously...
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RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
July 25, 2015 at 12:22 pm
(July 25, 2015 at 11:58 am)KevinM1 Wrote: Wait... is Randy really saying that if historical Jesus existed, then he must have been miraculous and divine?  Because that's patently idiotic.  And it's not at all what his playing deck of academic sources are getting at.

(July 25, 2015 at 11:59 am)abaris Wrote:
(July 25, 2015 at 11:58 am)KevinM1 Wrote: Wait... is Randy really saying that if historical Jesus existed, then he must have been miraculous and divine?  Because that's patently idiotic.  And it's not at all what his playing deck of academic sources are getting at.

Did you expect anything less from a person who can't even make a distinction between fact and hearsay?

First, I have not made the simplistic connection that Kevin suggests.

Second, abaris seems to miss (or conveniently ignore) the point that these FACTS are accepted by men who have far more academic chops than the entire membership of this forum combined.
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RE: Proving The Resurrection By the Minimal Facts Approach
July 25, 2015 at 12:23 pm
(July 25, 2015 at 12:18 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Sure. But you do acknowledge that there are holocaust deniers out there, right?

This is a stupid question knowing that I just called out Sungenis for being a Holocaust denier.
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