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How Long Will Christians Wait for the End Time to Come?
RE: How Long Will Christians Wait for the End Time to Come?
(August 30, 2015 at 6:34 pm)deep thinker Wrote: Another insult without defining your own beliefs...I'm not surprised.

Want another insult? Trolling asswipe. Sounds about right in my book.

If you want answers (I highly doubt that), feel free to look up what we all have posted when taking you even remotely serious on the previous pages of this thread.

If your precious time allows, of course.
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RE: How Long Will Christians Wait for the End Time to Come?
You remember my earlier hints about atheism not being a belief system?

Now; about atheism being a religion...

Guess what..?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: How Long Will Christians Wait for the End Time to Come?
(August 30, 2015 at 4:48 pm)Cecelia Wrote: Sorry, it was a Doctor Who joke.  Big Doctor Who fan.

Ah, Nu-Who, eh? Don't get me started. Anyway, that wasn't the Sun exploding; it was expanding. Which it will. I doubt there'll be sentient trampolines around though.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: How Long Will Christians Wait for the End Time to Come?
Quote:It would be very nice if atheists would spend more time stating their beliefs rather than attack others.

I don't think you know what you are really asking for here, as atheism only tells you ONE thing about a person. You will get a hundred answers, and the majority of them would be different.

Quote:So, what are your personal beliefs as it pertains to the origin of matter/life?

We actually know the origin of atomic matter, in short, nucleosynthesis. I can only assume that this is what you mean by matter.

As far as life is concerned, I don't know the origin of the very first living cell. However, me not knowing does not give other people license to posit a hyper-dimensional Gandalf that poofed it into existence using psychic powers from an intangible brain. It is nonsense, and the highest form of it, to explain an unknown with the unimaginably improbable.
I would more generally advocate that one only leave one entrance into their mind(reason), and keep the rest of it rather closed, as it is one hell of a lot easier to shovel shit in than it is to get it out.

If the evidence and reason for you to believe something isn't really any better than the reason you should believe some rural farmer from Arkansas got anally probed by interstellar visitors, then you probably shouldn't.

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RE: How Long Will Christians Wait for the End Time to Come?
(August 30, 2015 at 7:15 pm)thehedglin Wrote: I don't think you know what you are really asking for here, as atheism only tells you ONE thing about a person. You will get a hundred answers, and the majority of them would be different.

And they are. As is shown by pages upon pages of different responses. He just doesn't feel the need to adress them. That's why I consider him just another troll, repeating his one liner like a broken record.
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RE: How Long Will Christians Wait for the End Time to Come?
Atheism isn't a religion, and when people say they believe in the Big Bang Theory it's much different than your belief in god.

I'll explain the best I can (I'm not well versed in Science)

Say that a tree behind your house was knocked over in the middle of the night.

You have two theories:

Person A's Theory is that lightning hit the tree, knocking it over.

Person B's Theory is that during the middle of the night a Martian Space Ship crashed into it, knocking it over. According to Person B Martian Spaceships that Crash are turned invisible to hide them from the human eye. And Martians have three feet.

Person A's theory seems most probable. The Big Bang Theory. Based on the evidence we currently have, it's the best explanation we currently have.
Person B's theory on the other hand has no evidence. There were no footprints left behind, but Person B is sure that a Martian Spaceship crashed into the tree.

Now it's possible that neither theory is correct. Science is something that adapts. Scientific Theories are more than just 'guesses' (which is what the theory of god is. Just a guess). When evidence suggests a theory is wrong, they create a new theory.

On the other hand, Religion doesn't create new theories. They stick to the one they've had for 2000 years. They can't adapt because they're bound to a book that can't be changed, added to, or subtracted from. There's no proof god doesn't exist, but the evidence suggests that the Abrahamic God does not exist. Now consider how far humanity has come in 2000 years. Our understanding of things has changed, while religion has not adapted at all. Science on the other hand marches on. New discoveries are being made every day.

Atheism is more like science than it is a religion. It looks for hard evidence, rather than accepting things based on faith or personal revelation. It asks the questions, rather than assume it knows the answers. If evidence for a god surfaced, then Atheists would change their position.
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RE: How Long Will Christians Wait for the End Time to Come?
(August 30, 2015 at 6:26 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: Maybe 'end times' mean when religion is coming to an end. Big Grin
I keep hoping anyways.

People will be celebrating in the streets. We'll have mardi gras all over the world and ticker tape, wine an champaign. A lot of women will get pregnant on that day. We'll have a new generation—the end times baby boomers.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
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RE: How Long Will Christians Wait for the End Time to Come?
(August 30, 2015 at 7:18 pm)abaris Wrote: And they are. As is shown by pages upon pages of different responses. He just doesn't feel the need to adress them. That's why I consider him just another troll, repeating his one liner like a broken record.

That is unfortunate. It never ceases to amaze me how religious people seem to think we are just like them, a borg collective of nearly identical opinions, and just can't seem to realize something without required or prohibited beliefs would not engender such a phenomenon. It is woefully depressing, as it makes me hesitate to engage them out of pity, because I don't like feeling I am picking on people whose IQ and shoe size are virtually interchangeable.
I would more generally advocate that one only leave one entrance into their mind(reason), and keep the rest of it rather closed, as it is one hell of a lot easier to shovel shit in than it is to get it out.

If the evidence and reason for you to believe something isn't really any better than the reason you should believe some rural farmer from Arkansas got anally probed by interstellar visitors, then you probably shouldn't.

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RE: How Long Will Christians Wait for the End Time to Come?
I mean, seriously, folks. Who goes around constantly speculating about how the universe came to be. If not directly asked, I don't spend a single second on that question.

Yes, the Big Bang makes sense, as far as science is concerned. But I don't believe in the Big Bang. I just trust the scientists more than I trust the bible thumpers. But it could be that they're changing their tune at some point when they learn even more about the universe. That's the difference between science and belief. They're constantly testing their theories against the known parameters.
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RE: How Long Will Christians Wait for the End Time to Come?
(August 30, 2015 at 5:36 pm)deep thinker Wrote:
(August 30, 2015 at 5:15 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: Move the fucking goal posts much?

I have absolutely no fucking respect for religious beliefs. Want some respect for your beliefs? Get some that are respectable.

That has no fucking bearing on the content of my post though, does it? Why don't you try to find out what our fucking beliefs are before you tell us what they are then proceed to deride them. Or, are you married to that straw man?

Get some reading comprehension or get bent.
You should seek professional help to deal with your anger issues.  I would love to know what your beliefs are.  It would be very nice if atheists would spend more time stating their beliefs rather than attack others.  So, what are your personal beliefs as it pertains to the origin of matter/life?

So, you got a degree allowing you to make diagnosis over the internet?

Yeah, didn't think so.

Anger issues? Right. If you think I'm angry... Well, you couldn't be more wrong. Let's try frustrated with your pathetic attempt to straw man everyone on this site along with the lame attempt from every asshole just like you that has shown up here telling us what we believe then attempting to knock those beliefs.

As to my "personal beliefs as it pertains to the origin of matter/life," not only are they irrelevant to you're straw man, "I have no fucking clue" isn't exactly a belief. Honestly, I don't even care how it came to be. The important part is that it's there. The only time I consider it is when someone else brings up the topic.

Then only thing I know for sure is your ridiculous fairy tale isn't an answer.
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