Abortion is love

[Shining_Finger]

Ok. Was my abortion heinous?

Yes. All abortion is, imho. And I know you don't want to hear that, but it would be inconsistent/dishonest of me to say that some are ok and some aren't, when I strongly believe all human life is precious with no exception.

IMHO? In My Holy Opinion?
Humble doesn't really work in this situation.

[vorlon13]

Anyone willing to repudiate:


God said it,

The Bible records it,

And I believe it.



Is pretty much on our side.

Um,

Er,


uh,


Welcome To Atheist Forums.

[vorlon13]

One convert at a time.


{blows on fingernails of right fist}

[Tartarus Sauce]

Yes. All abortion is, imho. And I know you don't want to hear that, but it would be inconsistent/dishonest of me to say that some are ok and some aren't, when I strongly believe all human life is precious with no exception.

IMHO? In My Holy Opinion?
Humble doesn't really work in this situation.

Honest, her honest opinion, she isn't anywhere near vain enough to believe her opinion is holy.

Anyone willing to repudiate:


God said it,

The Bible records it,

And I believe it.



Is pretty much on our side.

Um,

Er,


uh,


Welcome To Atheist Forums.

So either one takes their holy book word for word literally or they must admit to being an atheist?

You have a rather simplistic view on the spectrum of theistic beliefs.

[Catholic_Lady]

Yes. All abortion is, imho. And I know you don't want to hear that, but it would be inconsistent/dishonest of me to say that some are ok and some aren't, when I strongly believe all human life is precious with no exception.

So, even though I would have likely died if I had carried to term, it's heinous? You just said all life is precious. A cluster of cells is more precious than the life I've been forging for thirty eight years?

Here's the the thing that I didn't tell you: the fetus was dead when I aborted it because my body isn't ideal for pregnancy. I was told at the age of twenty-two that I'd likely never even get pregnant, let alone carry a pregnancy to term, and if I tried, I'd be putting my life at major risk. Because of that, when I did get pregnant, I had a hard time deciding what to do, and when I made my decision and went to get an abortion, they told me the fetus was dead- I planned on aborting anyway.

Was my abortion heinous?

First of all, I am so sorry you went through that. My friend just lost her baby only days after she realized she was pregnant, and she's devastated. 

I guess I should have specified that by "abortion" I mean deliberately killing an unborn baby. A spontaneous abortion/miscarriage is what happened to you, so no, you didn't do anything I think is wrong or "heinous."  

With that being said I still don't support abortion in those cases because I see every human life as equal. I do think it's immoral to just downright kill one innocent person in order to save another innocent person. But when faced with very difficult moral questions like this, we have to comb through the very fine details. For example, in the case of an ectopic pregnancy where the mom and the baby are sure to die anyway, I don't think it's wrong to remove the damaged Fallopian tube. Or in the case where a pregnancy becomes very dangerous, just for the mom, I don't think it's wrong to try to remove the baby   as safely as possible and try to get him/her to survive somehow. Of course, he/she will probably die, especially if they are still very young, but at least you removed the mom from the dangerous situation she was in without cutting the baby apart, or whatever other method (I'll spare the nasty details), and still trying to save him/her too. 

This may seem petty to a lot of people, but it's mainly about the principle. It's about not forgetting that every human life is equal. It would not be consistent if we said every life is equal and then turned around and said one innocent life takes precedence over another  if one if still in the womb.

[Catholic_Lady]

IMHO? In My Holy Opinion?
Humble doesn't really work in this situation.

Honest, her honest opinion, she isn't anywhere near vain enough to believe her opinion is holy.

Anyone willing to repudiate:


God said it,

The Bible records it,

And I believe it.



Is pretty much on our side.  

Um,

Er,


uh,


Welcome To Atheist Forums.

So either one takes their holy book word for word literally or they must admit to being an atheist?

You have a rather simplistic view on the spectrum of theistic beliefs.

Thank you. 

[KUSA]

I think that God will reincarnate aborted children to give them a fair chance to go to hell.

[Losty]

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I know this question isn't for me, but here is my reason:

Because this life is also important. And human life in this life is sacred. Even if your intentions are "good", killing an innocent child is still the most heinous act you can possibly commit. You don't do something horrendous and evil for a "good" cause. Which, ironically enough, is also the reason why abortion is wrong even in cases of a crisis pregnancy. 

(Also, as I said, I don't see Heaven & Hell as "destinations". But rather, as a state of being a person chooses to be in. Loving someone is also allowing them to have their own mind and their own free will. By killing a baby/child because you don't want them to make wrong decisions, you are not only taking away their life, but their free will as well. It's a heinous thing.)

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I had an abortion in the case of a crisis pregnancy; am I heinous?

No, you are not. I hope you know this already and that's why you're opening yourself up with that question, but I still had to answer. Even if it hadn't been a crisis, that's not even the point. Ending a pregnancy is not killing a baby.

[Losty]

Ok. Was my abortion heinous?

Yes. All abortion is, imho. And I know you don't want to hear that, but it would be inconsistent/dishonest of me to say that some are ok and some aren't, when I strongly believe all human life is precious with no exception.

Oh the joys of abortion threads and how they cause so much tension. Let me go ahead and toss myself into unsafe zones and ask, how can you possibly say that oh believe all life is precious with no exception, when you clearly just said that in the case of a crisis pregnancy the mother's life should be forfeited to save a fetus?

[vorlon13]

I think that God will reincarnate aborted children to give them a fair chance to go to hell.

Technically (well, Biblically), children cannot be aborted.

Might as well get it right, more chances to confuse the Christers with the mysteries of their own faith.