Personal relationships with deities

[robvalue]

This is why I ask people to tell me what number I'm thinking of. That's new information you can't already have in your head. And a cinch for God, surely, to pass that on.

God told me the number you're thinking of is 8675309.  He told me that you may not have noticed that number in your mind if you were not open to the possibility of His existence... then He said He will remind you and others of that number all throughout the day...and perhaps even in the days to come to verify that He indeed is God, and He is in control.

Nice try! That wasn't the number. It only has four figures

I have now thought about your number though, as predicted, since I just read it.

[Losty]

Aha that god is so durn tricksy

[Edwardo Piet]

He's a little rascal.

[downbeatplumb]

Then how do you know they're not just thoughts? How do you know your thoughts are communication with a deity?

i just know the thoughts are not a product of my own mind , these thoughts sometimes i understand right away sometimes not but my own mind knows the difference i know the difference between my thoughts and thoughts that are not from me theyre very different than my own that im familiar with .

My wife is a spiritualist and she says exactly this about when the "spirits" contact her.
She is wrong it's just her, you are wrong as well.
But I suppose as long as your thoughts aren't telling you to kill all humans have your delusion, I could not care less.

[WinterHold]

 

Jörmungandr

And being a slave to Allah will set you free, no? Slavery is freedom, black is white, truth is lies -- do you even listen to your nonsense?

As long as you see God as a "White bearded Zeus on mount Olympus", you'll never understand. Yet if you saw him as an eternal force that existed outside the plain of time & space, eternal and everlasting, was never born & never would he give birth, you'll start to see the concept..That's not a human deity.

The thing is, Jörmungandr, is that all our concepts as humans come from our relationship with other humans..take this example : if you drew your katana and delivered a fatal blow to me, it would be murder; in peoples' mind you'll be a cold-blooded assassin.

Yet, if a pack of wolves jumped me in the wild & ate the hell out me, people would not be that angry on the wolves; matter in fact if a guy came and called the wolves "murderers"; he would be out of his mind.

A wolf gotta do what wolf does : HUNT & FEED.

We accepted the wolves, the animal life, the natural disasters, and all, in our human minds as  things that has to happen; facts that wouldn't changed, we made our peace with them. Can you get angry on earth for disturbing its layers to cause a tsunami that wiped out thousands ? or on the sun, being too hot that it caused a traveler to die on the road ?

in other words :
The slavery our minds see (which is always human slavery), is something different from the slavery to God. To be a creation, you must be a slave.

Do you compare THAT slavery, to "human to human" slavery ?

Just like the difference between the wolves feeding on me to survive, and your Katana blow.
It's not that much of a nonsense.

robvalue

My example above, Rob. And why does that show only take a quarter of the screen,and not the full screen ?

[jenny1972]

i just know the thoughts are not a product of my own mind , these thoughts sometimes i understand right away sometimes not but my own mind knows the difference i know the difference between my thoughts and thoughts that are not from me theyre very different than my own that im familiar with .

My wife is a spiritualist and she says exactly this about when the "spirits" contact her.
She is wrong it's just her, you are wrong as well.
But I suppose as long as your thoughts aren't telling you to kill all humans have your delusion, I could not care less.

how do you know that we are wrong ?

[Reforged]

My wife is a spiritualist and she says exactly this about when the "spirits" contact her.
She is wrong it's just her, you are wrong as well.
But I suppose as long as your thoughts aren't telling you to kill all humans have your delusion, I could not care less.

how do you know that we are wrong ?

"We"? Well now, is God sending you all the same signal?
Because thats easily demonstrated.

[drfuzzy]

My wife is a spiritualist and she says exactly this about when the "spirits" contact her.
She is wrong it's just her, you are wrong as well.
But I suppose as long as your thoughts aren't telling you to kill all humans have your delusion, I could not care less.

how do you know that we are wrong ?

downbeat:  have the spirits ever given your wife a message that contained information no one in the building could know, but was found to be true later?  Now, if the spirits could do THAT . . . it would be impressive.

[Losty]

Dude god gave hmmm the number that Robvalue was going to think after reading her post about said number. That's pretty fucking impressive. Rob didn't know he was gonna think that number. Only god knew.

[jenny1972]

how do you know that we are wrong ?

"We"? Well now, is God sending you all the same signal?
Because thats easily demonstrated.

thats very possible and i know its easily demonstrated its already been demonstrated to me that two people can get the same message from God