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RE: News from the clown car: Radio host suggests enslaving the poor, Huckabee agrees
October 16, 2015 at 6:06 pm
Wait...you AREN'T supposed to have poor people as slaves? Dammit. Where did I leave those manacle keys?
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RE: News from the clown car: Radio host suggests enslaving the poor, Huckabee agrees
October 16, 2015 at 7:13 pm
(October 16, 2015 at 5:39 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Please do not let Huckabee into the white house.
Not even as a tour guest.
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RE: News from the clown car: Radio host suggests enslaving the poor, Huckabee agrees
October 16, 2015 at 8:24 pm
Lol, yeah.
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RE: News from the clown car: Radio host suggests enslaving the poor, Huckabee agrees
October 16, 2015 at 9:27 pm
(October 16, 2015 at 5:39 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Please do not let Huckabee into the white house. I'd take Trump over this guy, as bad as he is, because I haven't heard Trump go on about turning America into a theocracy. I will leave this country. I don't know how, but I will do it.
I don't think you need to make any moving arrangements, lol. Even the Republicans aren't crazy enough to nominate someone that extreme and they wouldn't have a prayer in the general election if they did.
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RE: News from the clown car: Radio host suggests enslaving the poor, Huckabee agrees
October 16, 2015 at 9:38 pm
(October 16, 2015 at 12:41 pm)LastPoet Wrote: (October 16, 2015 at 12:09 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm?
There are alot of unused guns in the US. Perhaps that. Dunno.
Why is this person even... something of notice?
He's running for president, as scary as that is.
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RE: News from the clown car: Radio host suggests enslaving the poor, Huckabee agrees
October 16, 2015 at 10:18 pm
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Keep in mind that Huckabee is the guy who thought building concentration camps for HIV+ persons was a good idea, such a good idea that he "stood by his comments" when asked about the original statement, during his 2008 campaign. He also still thinks being gay should be a crime, and that we should execute drug dealers.
Prisons typically "allow" (read: force) prisoners to work for pennies per hour, literally (or as much as $1/hr, for "top" jobs), and almost all of it goes to paying off "debts" they incur as a result of their own prosecution, incarceration, and/or parole/probation fees. They are used as slave labor to run the prison itself, in jobs like grounds maintenance (at once camp, we had to push manual reel mowers to cut acres of grass every day), the kitchen, the laundry, and "food service". There are also Prison Industries jobs, where they make products that are sold to, or on behalf of, the State; this trend is increasing, as they quickly realize the profitability of it.
In some states, Missouri included, they are being charged as much as $100/day for the "privilege" of being held in jail, awaiting trial, meaning that innocent people who insist on fighting their cases are under tremendous pressure to accept a false plea-bargain, as they watch their debts skyrocket, awaiting a trial that never seems to come. I met guys whose unscrupulous prosecutors agreed to "waive the fee" if they pled guilty... the fee they incurred for waiting to go to trial, mind you.
Add to all that, there is what is called a "Victim's Compensation Fund" fee, which goes to the State whether or not your crime had a victim at all, and "Restitution", a fine assessed by the judge if there are damages asserted by the victim-- often at extraordinarily-inflated rates, because there's no standard of proof in that courtroom for claims made during the sentencing phase.
Inmates are already put into crushing debt that pretty much guarantees they have no alternative but to turn to crime, upon release, if they intend to eat and sleep under a roof. Guys like Huckabee are the reason states like Missouri and Arkansas (on whose borders I live) are the way they are... models of international scorn and derision. And he wants to make it worse!
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: News from the clown car: Radio host suggests enslaving the poor, Huckabee agrees
October 19, 2015 at 12:58 am
(October 16, 2015 at 12:03 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: "Huckabee Suggests Poor People Should Be Sold Into Slavery For Stealing"
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/1...e-slavery/
Quote:Host Jan Mickelson began by bemoaning that the “criminal justice system has been taken over by progressives.” In order to fight back, he argued, conservatives should look to the biblical Book of Exodus. “It says, if a person steals, they have to pay it back two-fold, four-fold,” Mickelson explained. “If they don’t have anything, we’re supposed to take them down and sell them.”
Mickelson went on to argue why jails, which he claimed are a “pagan invention,” are inferior to slavery: “We indenture them and they have to spend their time not sitting on their stump in a jail cell, they’re supposed to be working off the debt.”
“Wouldn’t that be a better choice?” the host asked.
“Well, it really would be,” Huckabee replied without missing a beat. “Sometimes the best way to deal with a nonviolent criminal behavior is what you just suggested.”
You just can't make this shit up. Complete with demonizing liberalism and everything! "[The] criminal justice system has been taken over by progressives" - um, no. If it *had* been taken over by progressives, it'd look a lot different than the system we have today, fucktard. Guy doesn't miss a beat.
The guy is right. We went to the prison system because the progressives claimed that it was more humane than the old system of corporal punishment. Their intent was to rehabilitate the bad guys instead of chopping off their hands or branding them or beating the crap out of them with a cat-0-nine tails. So now we have millions of people in prison with a very large prison industrial complex that depends on an ever increasing inventory of prisoners locked up for all sorts of new crimes created on a daily basis.
"There were jails, of course, from the earliest times, but they were used mainly to detain persons accused of crime until their guilt could be determined. Once they were found guilty they were not commonly returned to durance, but punished forthwith, either by death, by exile, by fine, or by some form of corporal suffering. Prisons were set up by philanthropists eager to do away with these ancient cruelties, but what they mainly accomplished was to make cruelty more facile. The very fact that they were regarded as humane suggested longer and longer sentences, and so today, at least in the United States, it is common for men to be locked up for years for crimes which, in a more innocent day, would have been punished by some such triviality as branding on the hand, a few hours in the pillory, a good cowhiding, or the loss of an ear. "
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If thieves lost their right hands for stealing would there be a lot of car thieves?
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RE: News from the clown car: Radio host suggests enslaving the poor, Huckabee agrees
October 19, 2015 at 2:51 am
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(October 19, 2015 at 12:58 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: If thieves lost their right hands for stealing would there be a lot of car thieves?
That depends ... automatic or standard transmission?
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