Personal relationships with deities

[jenny1972]

insight that two people get at the same time that is the same , or not at the same time but when shared with the other is a perfect addition/clarification of the other persons insight .

Thats weird. I've had that alot. Like when I was watching a news report in a chip shop on David Beckham and thought to myself "wanker". Then this other guy five seconds later watching the broadcast next to me said "Twat."
Was God speaking to both of us?

i wouldnt consider that convincing evidence no

[Edwardo Piet]

Jenny, he was joking

[drfuzzy]

But you don't need a machine -- well, actually, you'd be using a Duke-University type study they use for psychics.   But two video cameras, separation of the subjects, and impartial assistants - that's all you need.   And we can even take vids on our cell phones now.  Once you prove two people, separately, got the same message at the same time, you're off and running!   You could easily get funding to use brain scan machines after that.  And that seriously, honestly, sounds like a fun study.  I'm not playing with you.  I'd help.

psychics are able to control when the phenomenon takes place its controlled by their own ability not dependent on another , a psychic is able to control when it happens by their own mental effort . we could be there for a long time waiting since its not something the humans control . but if someone is interested in organizing and funding it and doesnt mind waiting for an uncertain amount of time id be interested in doing it .

So . . . 1) Even though you say god talks to you on a daily basis, you do nothing by way of prayer or meditation that helps that occur?  2) It's completely random? & 3) Corroboration with this other person doesn't happen on a regular basis?  Add in the fact that YOU would have to be in one room, and the other person would have to be taken from a pool of strangers, (since, for study purposes, you obviously could not know them) - - well, yes, this makes things a bit more difficult.  And gets us back, great toaster guru, to something un-scientifically testable.  Which means that every time you tell the tale, you will be met with skepticism.

[jenny1972]

psychics are able to control when the phenomenon takes place its controlled by their own ability not dependent on another , a psychic is able to control when it happens by their own mental effort . we could be there for a long time waiting since its not something the humans control . but if someone is interested in organizing and funding it and doesnt mind waiting for an uncertain amount of time id be interested in doing it .

So . . . 1) Even though you say god talks to you on a daily basis, you do nothing by way of prayer or meditation that helps that occur?  2) It's completely random? & 3) Corroboration with this other person doesn't happen on a regular basis?  Add in the fact that YOU would have to be in one room, and the other person would have to be taken from a pool of strangers, (since, for study purposes, you obviously could not know them) - - well, yes, this makes things a bit more difficult.  And gets us back, great toaster guru, to something un-scientifically testable.  Which means that every time you tell the tale, you will be met with skepticism.

lol thats ok if you go to a website full of skeptics you are going to be met with skepticism its totally logical and not surprising . we will just have to agree to disagree on this one (* ding toast pops up )

[drfuzzy]

So . . . 1) Even though you say god talks to you on a daily basis, you do nothing by way of prayer or meditation that helps that occur?  2) It's completely random? & 3) Corroboration with this other person doesn't happen on a regular basis?  Add in the fact that YOU would have to be in one room, and the other person would have to be taken from a pool of strangers, (since, for study purposes, you obviously could not know them) - - well, yes, this makes things a bit more difficult.  And gets us back, great toaster guru, to something un-scientifically testable.  Which means that every time you tell the tale, you will be met with skepticism.

lol thats ok if you go to a website full of skeptics you are going to be met with skepticism its totally logical and not surprising . we will just have to agree to disagree on this one (* ding toast pops up )

TOAST!  I can practically smell it.  (mmm)  I think we're both kinda toast!  But at least you're mellow and like to PLAY.  Have you SEEN the loonies we get comin' 'round this place??  Sheesh.   Some of them are more than a little burnt around the edges.  But seriously - if you get a response to prayer on a regular basis, you MUST be doing something a little different on the prayer spectrum.  If you find a way to describe it, please post it.

[jenny1972]

lol thats ok if you go to a website full of skeptics you are going to be met with skepticism its totally logical and not surprising . we will just have to agree to disagree on this one (* ding toast pops up )

TOAST!  I can practically smell it.  (mmm)  I think we're both kinda toast!  But at least you're mellow and like to PLAY.  Have you SEEN the loonies we get comin' 'round this place??  Sheesh.   Some of them are more than a little burnt around the edges.  But seriously - if you get a response to prayer on a regular basis, you MUST be doing something a little different on the prayer spectrum.  If you find a way to describe it, please post it.

lol you mean theres others besides James Brenton Kellingsworth the self proclaimed son of God who ? im really not doing anything at all since that day its just been constant or near constant response i couldnt even say response its more like i am the one responding back not God , questioning or seeking clarification if i dont understand something , but its random and really isnt a response to prayer if that makes sense .

[drfuzzy]

TOAST!  I can practically smell it.  (mmm)  I think we're both kinda toast!  But at least you're mellow and like to PLAY.  Have you SEEN the loonies we get comin' 'round this place??  Sheesh.   Some of them are more than a little burnt around the edges.  But seriously - if you get a response to prayer on a regular basis, you MUST be doing something a little different on the prayer spectrum.  If you find a way to describe it, please post it.

lol you mean theres others besides James Brenton Kellingsworth the self proclaimed son of God who ? im really not doing anything at all since that day its just been constant or near constant response i couldnt even say response its more like i am the one responding back not God , questioning or seeking clarification if i dont understand something , but its random and really isnt a response to prayer if that makes sense .

Loonies??  Oh boy, just keep watching. JBent is just one of many.  

Now, you know that I don't believe there IS a god.  But you also know that I was raised VERY Protestant religious, decades in churches.  So your description immediately went *ding* in my head (no toaster) and I was reminded of the phrase "pray without ceasing".  Some ministers would probably phrase this as being constantly "open" to "the voice of god".  This is supposed to be a holy state of mind.  Most people do not attain it.  Does that sound right?  If it makes you happy, that's a good thing.

[jenny1972]

lol you mean theres others besides James Brenton Kellingsworth the self proclaimed son of God who ? im really not doing anything at all since that day its just been constant or near constant response i couldnt even say response its more like i am the one responding back not God , questioning or seeking clarification if i dont understand something , but its random and really isnt a response to prayer if that makes sense .

Loonies??  Oh boy, just keep watching. JBent is just one of many.  

Now, you know that I don't believe there IS a god.  But you also know that I was raised VERY Protestant religious, decades in churches.  So your description immediately went *ding* in my head (no toaster) and I was reminded of the phrase "pray without ceasing".  Some ministers would probably phrase this as being constantly "open" to "the voice of god".  This is supposed to be a holy state of mind.  Most people do not attain it.  Does that sound right?  If it makes you happy, that's a good thing.

i dont know how common it is (some ministers think they know more than they actually do)  but yes thats exactly what its like just going back and forth almost constantly all day every day . it does make me happy and its just interesting i wished this wouldve happened a long long long time ago but i think everything happens according to a perfect plan . you can PM and add me as a friend if you want to miss kitty message me anytime

[robvalue]

I'm glad it makes you happy

My concern with religious people is that their religion is making them unhappy, or at least less happy than they would be without it. There's many reasons for this. But in your case, without the religious dogma, I can understand your relationship making you happy. It's not hurting anyone as far as I can tell, which is often not true of religion.

So I'm happy for you!

[jenny1972]

I'm glad it makes you happy

My concern with religious people is that their religion is making them unhappy, or at least less happy than they would be without it. There's many reasons for this. But in your case, without the religious dogma, I can understand your relationship making you happy. It's not hurting anyone as far as I can tell, which is often not true of religion.

So I'm happy for you!

i agree with that i think religion is harmful and has been all along . religion has caused more wars and more destruction racism and hate than any other thing thats ever been invented but i do believe one day religions will no longer exist . i just started a thread on a christian website (but atheists and people of other religions go there too)  about the westboro baptist church and how they are protesting tomorrow against kim davis and her hypocrisy about gay marriage yes the ultra conservative church that hates gays . but if theyre going to start protesting against christian hypocrisy now and it looks like they are some small protests today outside churches i cant be against that .

They are still a hateful church but i just cant be against anyone protesting against the hypocrisy of religious people lol .The people at westboro baptist are probabally the biggest hypocrites themselves but anti hypocrisy is a good overall message ...... so still a hateful religious cult but to see them or anyone protesting publicly against religious hypocrisy thats great hope they shift all their focus to that , and that could be actually happening i dont think any church has really ever done that before . yes i think religion does make a lot of people unhappy , their filled with hate and fear and people around them are judged unfairly and made to feel bad . its absolutely the worst thing humanity has ever created !