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Personal relationships with deities
RE: Personal relationships with deities
(October 20, 2015 at 11:37 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: No information disproves God.

No information disproves unicorns and leprechauns, but I don't see you professing belief in them.

Fucking dumbass.
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
(October 20, 2015 at 11:37 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote:
(October 20, 2015 at 11:35 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: You are an exemplar of this statement.
Just because I believe in God doesn't mean I don't take in information. No information disproves God. If it did I would consider it.

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As i was saying...
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
Okay. Science us a means to prove things.

The source of existence isn't proven. The closest we've gotten is the big bang. If that is a good guess if how things as we know them started then I goes along with ancient writings pretty well. "Let there be light" sounds like a pretty good description of an event similar to the big bang.
Like I was saying; science can't go back any further than the big bang. Just because we can't accurately speculate about our source prior to the big bang means automatic, no creative force, huh? Yeah that's some quality thinking there.
Beyond that; prior to written history man has exclaimed God. He wasn't lying. He just couldn't describe it fully or without greedy intentions in many cases. Such is the way of God and man.

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RE: Personal relationships with deities
Not having an answer does not mean one believes in a readily available one for the sake of impatience.

Needing an answer right now does not mean any answer found is the correct one.

Science will lead the way toward the answers, in the proper way. One must simply learn patience.
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
(October 20, 2015 at 11:51 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Beyond that; prior to written history man has exclaimed God.

Primitive men were ignorant.

Are you seriously attempting to make an argument in relation to how long man has professed god's existence in this manner?

Seriously, I just want to shove logic into that retarded brain of yours, not that it would do any good.

Primitive man's first thoughts were, naturally, of what had brought him where he was. Only primitive thought jumped to the conclusion at seeing the wind blow and the lightning flare across the sky that there were superior beings at work, invisible to the human eye.

Yes, that is how religion was created. For long before monotheism, there was polytheism.
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
(October 20, 2015 at 11:58 pm)Kitan Wrote:
(October 20, 2015 at 11:51 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Beyond that; prior to written history man has exclaimed God.

Primitive men were ignorant.

Are you seriously attempting to make an argument in relation to how long man has professed god's existence in this manner?

Seriously, I just want to shove logic into that retarded brain of yours, not that it would do any good.

Primitive man's first thoughts were, naturally, of what had brought him where he was. Only primitive thought jumped to the conclusion at seeing the wind blow and the lightning flare across the sky that there were superior beings at work, invisible to the human eye.

Yes, that is how religion was created. For long before monotheism, there was polytheism.
You attest that things don't happen for reasons. I say nothing is by chance. All things come from the one God that created them all. Your statement in no way promoted polytheism.

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RE: Personal relationships with deities
(October 20, 2015 at 11:51 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Okay. Science us a means to prove things.

The source of existence isn't proven. The closest we've gotten is the big bang. If that is a good guess if how things as we know them started then I goes along with ancient writings pretty well. "Let there be light" sounds like a pretty good description of an event similar to the big bang.
Like I was saying; science can't go back any further than the big bang. Just because we can't accurately speculate about our source prior to the big bang means automatic, no creative force, huh? Yeah that's some quality thinking there.
Beyond that; prior to written history man has exclaimed God. He wasn't lying. He just couldn't describe it fully or without greedy intentions in many cases. Such is the way of God and man.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

Way to straw man. [Image: free-rolleye-smileys-323.gif]
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
(October 21, 2015 at 12:02 am)popsthebuilder Wrote: Your statement in no way promoted polytheism.

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You clearly have no concept of the history of religion, for the simple fact that all you have ever been taught or cared to learn is within that droll little book of nonsense known as the holy bible.
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
(October 20, 2015 at 11:51 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Okay. Science us a means to prove things.

The source of existence isn't proven. The closest we've gotten is the big bang. If that is a good guess if how things as we know them started then I goes along with ancient writings pretty well. "Let there be light" sounds like a pretty good description of an event similar to the big bang.
Like I was saying; science can't go back any further than the big bang. Just because we can't accurately speculate about our source prior to the big bang means automatic, no creative force, huh? Yeah that's some quality thinking there.
Beyond that; prior to written history man has exclaimed God. He wasn't lying. He just couldn't describe it fully or without greedy intentions in many cases. Such is the way of God and man.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

Bold mine. People don't have to lie to be wrong. They can be mistaken. They can be deluded. If you think you can exclude both those possibilities from a 2000 year old textual account, you're living in a fantasy land.

Please don't say I can't prove they weren't telling the truth, that's the argument from ignorance fallacy. Some people seem to use it as punctuation. Please, everyone, learn why this is a mistake in logic.
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RE: Personal relationships with deities
(October 21, 2015 at 1:25 am)robvalue Wrote:
(October 20, 2015 at 11:51 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Okay. Science us a means to prove things.

The source of existence isn't proven. The closest we've gotten is the big bang. If that is a good guess if how things as we know them started then I goes along with ancient writings pretty well. "Let there be light" sounds like a pretty good description of an event similar to the big bang.
Like I was saying; science can't go back any further than the big bang. Just because we can't accurately speculate about our source prior to the big bang means automatic, no creative force, huh? Yeah that's some quality thinking there.
Beyond that; prior to written history man has exclaimed God. He wasn't lying. He just couldn't describe it fully or without greedy intentions in many cases. Such is the way of God and man.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

Bold mine. People don't have to lie to be wrong. They can be mistaken. They can be deluded. If you think you can exclude both those possibilities from a 2000 year old textual account, you're living in a fantasy land.

Please don't say I can't prove they weren't telling the truth, that's the argument from ignorance fallacy. Some people seem to use it as punctuation. Please, everyone, learn why this is a mistake in logic.
Please don't assume I speak of one particular belief or religion. Like I said, before written history. That would be over 4000years. And since I'm speaking of Faith under God and not any one organized religion you can't really act like it is one isolated case of Christ.

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