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RE: I don't understand, why do Christians not like Masturbation or porn
October 25, 2015 at 11:25 am
(October 25, 2015 at 10:48 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: You know that feeling of regret, shame and disgust with anything sensual, you briefly get after an orgasm, while you turn off whatever you were watching, pull up your underwear and remove the belt from your neck?... That feeling - extended for a lifetime - is the quintessence of christianity. All abrahamic religions, in fact.
That reminds me of a line in a song that goes "we made love, and then she cried". Like, why would you cry after having consentual sex? Because the culture you're in is abusive.
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RE: I don't understand, why do Christians not like Masturbation or porn
October 25, 2015 at 11:29 am
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RE: I don't understand, why do Christians not like Masturbation or porn
October 25, 2015 at 12:21 pm
(October 25, 2015 at 5:10 am)robvalue Wrote: The myth that the bible is against masturbation comes from the misinterpretation of the story of Onan. God struck him down for refusing to impregnate his dead brother's wife by pulling out and spelling his seed. This has also been wrongly interpreted to imply that the bible is against contraception.
It all goes to show that it matters what people think the bible says, rather than what it actually says, most of the time.
That's one piece of the puzzle. Onan is killed for "spilling his seed on the earth," and they focus on that rather than the mostly Jewish sin of failing to impregnate the woman and preserve the line.
Then we head over to Matthew, where Jesus says that if your hand causes you to sin you should cut it off, and if your eye causes you to sin, you should gouge it out. Obviously, he's talking about your porno-watching eyes and your masturbating hands, which means masturbation makes you go to hell.
This line of reasoning was introduced to me on a college campus by a street preacher named Brother Micah, who is the kind of evangelist that does not bother to carry a bullhorn; just a bible, his wife, and a bunch of tracts. He is a loud and proud moron, and I hope I get the chance to troll him again one day. I was a Christian and a muggle who knew a few cantrips the last time we matched wits. Now I'm the Wizard of Staunton.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
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RE: I don't understand, why do Christians not like Masturbation or porn
October 25, 2015 at 12:40 pm
Hmm. "If your hand causes you to sin" is very vague. If masturbation hasn't already been established as a sin, then that doesn't follow. (I'm sure I've no need to convince you of that  )
I thought it meant if you committed any established sin with your hand, you should cut it off. Technically, your hand can't force you to do anything since it's not in charge.
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RE: I don't understand, why do Christians not like Masturbation or porn
October 25, 2015 at 12:45 pm
"Fuck you and your book too
You can have it back
When I'm gone these songs
Will be my tracts."
From the 2nd half of the full length version of Even Less by Porcupine Tree:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKuHP_7J9zc
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RE: I don't understand, why do Christians not like Masturbation or porn
October 25, 2015 at 12:47 pm
(October 25, 2015 at 11:17 am)robvalue Wrote: It does make me really sad people imposing these feelings of shame and guilt onto themselves, over mostly harmless things like masturbation. And having to lie about it.
It's actually beneficial, so you can cause yourselves problems by limiting it too much.
I think this is part of why we are such a violent country.
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RE: I don't understand, why do Christians not like Masturbation or porn
October 25, 2015 at 12:48 pm
Pent up horniness.
Mine is never pent up. Maybe that is why I'm such a nice and peaceful guy - I masturbate a lot lol.
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RE: I don't understand, why do Christians not like Masturbation or porn
October 25, 2015 at 12:55 pm
(October 25, 2015 at 9:30 am)Cato Wrote: Another fine example of Christian hypocrisy. U.S. Porn consumption rates cannot be supported by its non-believing population.
Hell, you know what state consumes the most porn? The ultra-pious Utah.
Although, that is measured by online subscription. Maybe all that means is Mormons are too stupid to get their porn for free.
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RE: I don't understand, why do Christians not like Masturbation or porn
October 25, 2015 at 12:58 pm
I guess they've never tried simply googling the word "porn" (or something to that effect ).
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RE: I don't understand, why do Christians not like Masturbation or porn
October 25, 2015 at 12:59 pm
How did we evolve as a species to consider the single most important thing for our survival as bad?
WHY is sex so taboo and bad and wrong? Remember when Janet Jackson showed the world her weird nipple thing on live TV and everyone was all up in arms about it? (yet we can show people getting their heads blown off during primetime).
Sex drive is not going away. The more it's repressed, the more it will come out in other ways. Why is it wrong for people to enjoy sex? Particularly women! What the fuck? I don't get it. From the time I was a kid, I remember being judged for having sexual feelings. Is there seriously something wrong with that?
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