And the problem is, as soon as God is defined in a scientific way he's no longer God.
Naturalism has supernaturalism in a stranglehold.
Naturalism has supernaturalism in a stranglehold.
What would you consider to be evidence for God?
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And the problem is, as soon as God is defined in a scientific way he's no longer God.
Naturalism has supernaturalism in a stranglehold.
Wow just found the original demo version of Even Less by Porcupine Tree
A lot of the lyrics are different... some of the original lyrics are: "Jesus was crucified for doing nothing And God is worshiped for even less." Less than doing nothing... in other words, being nothing haha. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DGT36Tljhc (October 30, 2015 at 11:40 pm)IATIA Wrote: The fact remains that your god has utterly failed to convince me that it exists. So again, it is either impotent or non-existent.Everyone is convinced of God's existence*; not everyone accepts God's authority which is the exercise of their God given 'free-will'. Remember, the Garden-of-Eden was made 'very good' (not perfect like some think), and then God made it even better by introduction free will. *Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
(November 4, 2015 at 4:21 pm)snowtracks Wrote:(October 30, 2015 at 11:40 pm)IATIA Wrote: The fact remains that your god has utterly failed to convince me that it exists. So again, it is either impotent or non-existent.Everyone is convinced of God's existence*; not everyone accepts God's authority which is the exercise of their God given 'free-will'. Remember, the Garden-of-Eden was made 'very good' (not perfect like some think), and then God made it even better by introduction free will. No, not everyone is convinced of Yahweh's existence, you simple-minded schmuck. Try thinking for yourself for a change, and quit hiding behind the Bible as your excuse for not thinking. I mean, if you are genuinely an idiot, that's one thing. But at least own it. Don't let an old book be the reason for your idiocy. (November 4, 2015 at 4:21 pm)snowtracks Wrote:(October 30, 2015 at 11:40 pm)IATIA Wrote: The fact remains that your god has utterly failed to convince me that it exists. So again, it is either impotent or non-existent.Everyone is convinced of God's existence*; not everyone accepts God's authority which is the exercise of their God given 'free-will'. Remember, the Garden-of-Eden was made 'very good' (not perfect like some think), and then God made it even better by introduction free will. I am not convinced of gods existence so you and the bible are wrong on that point. You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis. (November 4, 2015 at 4:44 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(November 4, 2015 at 4:21 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Everyone is convinced of God's existence*; not everyone accepts God's authority which is the exercise of their God given 'free-will'. Remember, the Garden-of-Eden was made 'very good' (not perfect like some think), and then God made it even better by introduction free will. Obviously, we don't really know our own minds. Whatever would we do without that asshole, Paul, and his latter day monkey, snowtracks, to tell us what we really know?
Any evidence for one, So far it's been; Visions, Dreams, Vague shapes on things, Feelings and personal definitions.
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming" -The Prophet Boiardi-
Conservative trigger warning.
RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
November 4, 2015 at 8:07 pm
(This post was last modified: November 4, 2015 at 8:25 pm by IATIA.)
(November 4, 2015 at 4:21 pm)snowtracks Wrote:(October 30, 2015 at 11:40 pm)IATIA Wrote: The fact remains that your god has utterly failed to convince me that it exists. So again, it is either impotent or non-existent.Everyone is convinced of God's existence* ... Who is everyone? Not only am I not convinced of god's existence, my personal take is that there is no god to be convinced of. Any god is logically impossible. For a god to exist requires infinite regression and we would not be here yet. The fact that we are here means no infinite regression and IMHO, no possibility of a god.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy (November 4, 2015 at 4:21 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Everyone is convinced of God's existence* Everyone is convinced of the Flying Spaghetti Monster's existence* *Pastafarian 1:20 For since the creation of the world FSM's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
November 4, 2015 at 8:23 pm
(This post was last modified: November 4, 2015 at 8:24 pm by Simon Moon.)
(November 4, 2015 at 4:21 pm)snowtracks Wrote:(October 30, 2015 at 11:40 pm)IATIA Wrote: The fact remains that your god has utterly failed to convince me that it exists. So again, it is either impotent or non-existent.Everyone is convinced of God's existence*; not everyone accepts God's authority which is the exercise of their God given 'free-will'. Remember, the Garden-of-Eden was made 'very good' (not perfect like some think), and then God made it even better by introduction free will. Why should we accept that the Bible is authoritative, or even reflects reality? Remember, the Bible is not evidence, it is the claim. You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence. |
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