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Quote:Everything we are and everything in the universe and on Earth originated from stardust, and it continually floats through us even today. It directly connects us to the universe, rebuilding our bodies over and again over our lifetimes.
Bottom line is how did this "Goat-herder's Guide To The Galaxy" as you put it, figure that we were made from dust in the first place?
(November 9, 2015 at 10:44 pm)Beccs Wrote: Direct passage from the bible where it's "been saying this all along" please.
Quote:Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Quote:Genesis 3:19
In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
Quote:Everything we are and everything in the universe and on Earth originated from stardust, and it continually floats through us even today. It directly connects us to the universe, rebuilding our bodies over and again over our lifetimes.
Quote:We really didn't realize how impermanent we are, and that our bodies are made of remnants of stars and massive explosions in the galaxies. All the material in our bodies originates with that residual stardust, and it finds its way into plants, and from there into the nutrients that we need for everything we do—think, move, grow.
How is that NOT saying the same thing the Bible has already said?
You have got to be fucking kidding me.
You really need to take a new avatar picture Huggies. You forgot your tinfoil hat in the current one.
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November 10, 2015 at 12:32 am (This post was last modified: November 10, 2015 at 12:32 am by Homeless Nutter.)
(November 10, 2015 at 12:03 am)Huggy74 Wrote: [quote pid='1109790' dateline='1447126870']
Bottom line is how did this "Goat-herder's Guide To The Galaxy" as you put it, figure that we were made from dust in the first place?
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It didn't. It was a guess or an older myth, that the authors were convinced couldn't be disproven - at least in their lifetimes. Bible is full of assertions and speculations. If you forget all the ones that turned out demonstrably false and interpret the rest in the most biased way possible - you may fool yourself into believing any of it is based on facts, but that's not how science, or logic work.
We're talking about a book that claims that Pi equals 3 (1 Kings 7:23, 2 Chronicles 4:2) for f***'s sake. Enough said.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
Is Huggy really trying to say that the golem portion of the creation myth means that the ancients knew about stardust?
Holy fucking shit. That's hilarious.
Huggy, man, the entire point is that we were supposedly made from clay. Like the bulk of the things used in the ancient world were. "How did the ancients know we were formed of dust, hmm?" They made their god anthropomorphic and had him make us in the same way they people made most things because that's what they knew at the time about creating certain kinds of inanimate objects. Including figurines of people, animals, religious idols, etc.
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(November 9, 2015 at 11:45 pm)Beccs Wrote: I just love how these vague comments are interpreted to be scientific.
I love how literalists try to shoehorn science into their magic story in an attempt to make it seem less childish, but then throw it under a bus and cry "miracle" the instant it stops being convenient.
"You know the very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. They don't alter their views to fit the facts. They alter the facts to fit the views. Which can be uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering."
-- the Doctor
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(November 10, 2015 at 1:47 am)KevinM1 Wrote: Is Huggy really trying to say that the golem portion of the creation myth means that the ancients knew about stardust?
Holy fucking shit. That's hilarious.
Huggy, man, the entire point is that we were supposedly made from clay. Like the bulk of the things used in the ancient world were. "How did the ancients know we were formed of dust, hmm?" They made their god anthropomorphic and had him make us in the same way they people made most things because that's what they knew at the time about creating certain kinds of inanimate objects. Including figurines of people, animals, religious idols, etc.
Huggy74 : see look it fits !
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you tryNo hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one - John Lennon
The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also - Mark Twain
(November 9, 2015 at 10:44 pm)Beccs Wrote: Direct passage from the bible where it's "been saying this all along" please.
Quote:Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Quote:Genesis 3:19
In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
Quote:Everything we are and everything in the universe and on Earth originated from stardust, and it continually floats through us even today. It directly connects us to the universe, rebuilding our bodies over and again over our lifetimes.
Quote:We really didn't realize how impermanent we are, and that our bodies are made of remnants of stars and massive explosions in the galaxies. All the material in our bodies originates with that residual stardust, and it finds its way into plants, and from there into the nutrients that we need for everything we do—think, move, grow.
How is that NOT saying the same thing the Bible has already said?
(November 10, 2015 at 1:47 am)KevinM1 Wrote: Is Huggy really trying to say that the golem portion of the creation myth means that the ancients knew about stardust?
Holy fucking shit. That's hilarious.
Huggy, man, the entire point is that we were supposedly made from clay. Like the bulk of the things used in the ancient world were. "How did the ancients know we were formed of dust, hmm?" They made their god anthropomorphic and had him make us in the same way they people made most things because that's what they knew at the time about creating certain kinds of inanimate objects. Including figurines of people, animals, religious idols, etc.
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