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Curious question of curiosity.
#21
RE: Curious question of curiosity.
END THE WAR ON SATURNALIA
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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#22
RE: Curious question of curiosity.
(November 12, 2015 at 1:59 pm)Oceanian Wrote:
(November 12, 2015 at 1:39 pm)Lek Wrote: It doesn't matter a bit if the date of celebration has pagan roots or isn't when Jesus was actually born.  What matters is what it means to people who celebrate it today.

So basically you are saying that christmas has nothing to do with christianity, admit it's Pagan, while admitting the Bible is also based mostly on the teachings of Paganism? So why bother be christian?

Christmas has everything to do with christianity. We don't celebrate whatever the pagans celebrated on that day. We celebrate the birth of Christ on that day. What does it matter if it is on the same day that pagans celebrated something else? We could celebrate it on any day of the year that we wanted to.
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#23
RE: Curious question of curiosity.
(November 12, 2015 at 4:30 pm)Lek Wrote:
(November 12, 2015 at 1:59 pm)Oceanian Wrote: So basically you are saying that christmas has nothing to do with christianity, admit it's Pagan, while admitting the Bible is also based mostly on the teachings of Paganism? So why bother be christian?

Christmas has everything to do with christianity. We don't celebrate whatever the pagans celebrated on that day. We celebrate the birth of Christ on that day. What does it matter if it is on the same day that pagans celebrated something else? We could celebrate it on any day of the year that we wanted to.
Such as April 21st, for example, the birth date of Christ that many second and third century Christians ascribed to the king of God's city... Curiously also the date that Rome was thought to have been founded...
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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#24
RE: Curious question of curiosity.
I celebrate the birth of Christ on April 1st.


No, really.
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#25
RE: Curious question of curiosity.
Hehehe. I think God's the true April fool's fool!
He inseminated Mary immaculately, when he could have just fucked her instead!
What a waste of a good night in the hay. He's such a loser.
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Know God, Know fear.
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#26
RE: Curious question of curiosity.
(November 12, 2015 at 4:30 pm)Lek Wrote:
(November 12, 2015 at 1:59 pm)Oceanian Wrote: So basically you are saying that christmas has nothing to do with christianity, admit it's Pagan, while admitting the Bible is also based mostly on the teachings of Paganism? So why bother be christian?

Christmas has everything to do with christianity.  We don't celebrate whatever the pagans celebrated on that day.  We celebrate the birth of Christ on that day.  What does it matter if it is on the same day that pagans celebrated something else?  We could celebrate it on any day of the year that we wanted to.

So I presume you don't object to people who don't believe in the story of Jesus' birth or the mythos of Christianity also celebrating Christmas in an entirely secular way. 

Because that's the only reason people ever bring Saturnalia up, when Christians say nobody who isn't a Christian has a right to celebrate Christmas. As if they can stop it  Shy
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(November 13, 2015 at 5:19 am)Pandæmonium Wrote:
(November 12, 2015 at 4:30 pm)Lek Wrote: Christmas has everything to do with christianity.  We don't celebrate whatever the pagans celebrated on that day.  We celebrate the birth of Christ on that day.  What does it matter if it is on the same day that pagans celebrated something else?  We could celebrate it on any day of the year that we wanted to.

So I presume you don't object to people who don't believe in the story of Jesus' birth or the mythos of Christianity also celebrating Christmas in an entirely secular way. 

Because that's the only reason people ever bring Saturnalia up, when Christians say nobody who isn't a Christian has a right to celebrate Christmas. As if they can stop it  Shy

I'm OK with that.
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#28
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Well then I will hoist a cup of spiked egg nog on xmas .. by your leave of course.
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#29
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Yep, tis the season to get trashed and piss off the inlaws...Wink
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#30
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I've got a burning Yule log I need to stick somewhere.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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