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RE: Curious question of curiosity.
November 14, 2015 at 4:59 pm
(November 12, 2015 at 4:30 pm)Lek Wrote: (November 12, 2015 at 1:59 pm)Oceanian Wrote: So basically you are saying that christmas has nothing to do with christianity, admit it's Pagan, while admitting the Bible is also based mostly on the teachings of Paganism? So why bother be christian?
Christmas has everything to do with christianity. We don't celebrate whatever the pagans celebrated on that day. We celebrate the birth of Christ on that day. What does it matter if it is on the same day that pagans celebrated something else? We could celebrate it on any day of the year that we wanted to.
Its matters in the sense that why is celebrated on DEC 25th has a lot to do with the history of the Church. The reason for that date is really quite pragmatic. You see the romans celebrated Saturnalia on that day, so when Constantine came along, he knew people wouldn't like it too much if they took away a favorite holiday so they just said " okay now it's for Jesus".
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RE: Curious question of curiosity.
November 14, 2015 at 5:19 pm
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(November 14, 2015 at 4:59 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (November 12, 2015 at 4:30 pm)Lek Wrote: Christmas has everything to do with christianity. We don't celebrate whatever the pagans celebrated on that day. We celebrate the birth of Christ on that day. What does it matter if it is on the same day that pagans celebrated something else? We could celebrate it on any day of the year that we wanted to.
Its matters in the sense that why is celebrated on DEC 25th has a lot to do with the history of the Church. The reason for that date is really quite pragmatic. You see the romans celebrated Saturnalia on that day, so when Constantine came along, he knew people wouldn't like it too much if they took away a favorite holiday so they just said " okay now it's for Jesus".
I don't know if any christians have a problem with that. I think it's of greater concern to non-christians for some reason. Maybe they don't think it's right for us to take over a nice pagan holiday. We can all the share the holiday and celebrate it according to what it means to us.
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RE: Curious question of curiosity.
November 14, 2015 at 5:27 pm
(This post was last modified: November 14, 2015 at 5:31 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I wouldn't expect them to have much of an issue with it, until, ofc, you ask the question it begs "What else did they steal out of superstition and laziness?". The history of christianity is not a problem for the reality of christianity, it's only a problem for the fanatasies that many christians have regarding christianity. Like, "christmas being about jesus", for example.
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RE: Curious question of curiosity.
November 14, 2015 at 5:29 pm
(November 14, 2015 at 5:27 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I wouldn't expect them to have much of an issue with it, until, ofc, you ask the question it begs "What else did they steal out of superstition and laziness?"
The answer being "everything that wasn't nailed in place".
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RE: Curious question of curiosity.
November 14, 2015 at 5:38 pm
(November 14, 2015 at 5:29 pm)Skeletor Wrote: (November 14, 2015 at 5:27 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I wouldn't expect them to have much of an issue with it, until, ofc, you ask the question it begs "What else did they steal out of superstition and laziness?"
The answer being "everything that wasn't nailed in place".
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