Debate Challenge

[Mystic]

Eh, I'm still waiting for my formal debate to be moderated.

[Esquilax]

Hello. I have been engaging in debates with atheists on the existence of God for many years now, and I still have yet to find a worthy opponent who is capable of defeating me. I'm here to issue a challenge to any atheist with the guts to take me on. Would anyone be interested?

How about you start by showing you have any argument of substance before you begin your grandstanding? Because a theist stating "nobody has ever defeated me in a debate!" means approximately nothing: religion seems to imbue in its apologists an entirely undeserved high opinion of their own intellectual chops (Wooter's self-serving lie of omission early in this thread should be adequate proof of that) and a desperate need to trumpet that opinion from the rooftops at every opportunity.

If you can present a cogent argument, I will debate you. If you can't, then you're just wasting my time. At the moment, you're just Schrodinger's theist, sitting in the box, braying about how awesome you are. Come on out, and let's see if you're the one theist in all of human history with some actual meat to their intellectual output on this topic.

[JesusHChrist]

Hello. I have been engaging in debates with atheists on the existence of God for many years now, and I still have yet to find a worthy opponent who is capable of defeating me. I'm here to issue a challenge to any atheist with the guts to take me on. Would anyone be interested?

TiG - it would help tremendously, if you could provide an abstract of one, just one, killer, can't-be-defeated argument for God, so we may Bask In Awe of Your Debating Skills and cower in fear, our hell-bound, sin-loving, evidence-based ways are about to be vanquished. And we do so much like sinning! And evidence! At least I do!

Just the abstract for one, killer, can't-be-defeated arg should be sufficient to see if some poor sap, I mean worthy opponent, will come out of the woodwork to engage with your Intellectual Magnificence. Poor bastard no doubt!

Popcorn awaits...

[bennyboy]

Is it just me, or has Elvis left the building?

[JesusHChrist]

Is it just me, or has Elvis left the building?

Like Jesus, Elvis will return, but we know not when. 

Perhaps, he/she is putting on Spiritual Armor to do battle with the heathen. So many straps and buckles! And always with the binding in uncomfortable places.

Meanwhile, back to sinning.

[Neo-Scholastic]

TruthIsGod, with all due respect, what do you hope to achieve. Do you think the whole forum will implode? I won a debate recently. My opponent was not able to defeat the 5 Ways of Aquinas. Some spectators claimed that he did a bad job and that they could have done better. They haven't. The Five Ways remain decisive.

Is that why I haven't seen Metis in months??

Esquilax stepped up to the plate on another thread. His reply was made in haste and highly repetitive. I did my best to address all his objections point by point. Unfortunately he dropped out of the thread before all my points had been acknowledged and discussed. I am not saying that he felt unable to respond or felt it unnecessary to do so. He may have just lost interest in the thread. Jor seemed to feel that the 'Liar's Paradox' undermined the logic of the 5W. I thought my response adequate. She disagreed and the matter rests with readers to decide that point.

[Esquilax]

Esquilax stepped up to the plate on another thread. His reply was made in haste and highly repetitive. I did my best to address all his objections point by point. Unfortunately he dropped out of the thread before all my points had been acknowledged and discussed.  I am not saying that he felt unable to respond or felt it unnecessary to do so. He may have just lost interest in the thread.

I have a wife who's grappling with a long term chronic illness. Sometimes I miss threads because my days are often filled with work and caring for her; I'll try and get back to you on that one when I have a spare moment, now that I know there's something in there to look at.

[rexbeccarox]

Is that why I haven't seen Metis in months??

Esquilax stepped up to the plate on another thread. His reply was made in haste and highly repetitive. I did my best to address all his objections point by point. Unfortunately he dropped out of the thread before all my points had been acknowledged and discussed.  I am not saying that he felt unable to respond or felt it unnecessary to do so. He may have just lost interest in the thread. Jor seemed to feel that the 'Liar's Paradox' undermined the logic of the 5W. I thought my response adequate. She disagreed and the matter rests with readers to decide that point.

He didn't lose interest; we caught him plagiarizing, and he left with his tail between his legs. It had nothing to do with your amaaaaaaaaazing arguments, Chad.

[Neo-Scholastic]

Esquilax stepped up to the plate on another thread. His reply was made in haste and highly repetitive. I did my best to address all his objections point by point. Unfortunately he dropped out of the thread before all my points had been acknowledged and discussed.  I am not saying that he felt unable to respond or felt it unnecessary to do so. He may have just lost interest in the thread. Jor seemed to feel that the 'Liar's Paradox' undermined the logic of the 5W. I thought my response adequate. She disagreed and the matter rests with readers to decide that point.

He didn't lose interest; we caught him plagiarizing, and he left with his tail between his legs. It had nothing to do with your amaaaaaaaaazing arguments, Chad.

I cannot take any credit for the arguments themselves which come directly from Aristotle and Thomas Aquinas. All I can do is repackage them for a modern audience and reply to any misunderstandings that would prevent their acceptance.

[SteelCurtain]

Lol. Only a misunderstanding could prevent acceptance?

You have presuppositions to your presuppositions, it would seem.

I understand them perfectly, Chad, and I reject them as facile.