Atheism the unscientific belief (part one, two, and three)

[Homeless Nutter]

That is very interesting Bec.   
Why on hell would you read more pages and posts if you thought that page one is rubbish? [...]

Perhaps because - even though your own feeble contributions are tedious and devoid of any substance - this thread contains a lot of hilarious jokes made by awesome, smart and handsome people, at your expense. Thank you for being such a great comedy prop.

You definitely did not think about that, did you?

[Ben Davis]

An absence of belief is different from not believing.

No... an absence of belief is what disbelief is. There is no semantic difference for you to use as an escape route. You're clearly incapable of admitting when you're wrong, even when the inadmission makes you look worse than being wrong in the first place. Why is that?

More confusion.
You just can not disbelieve on philosophical ground.

Yes you can. There are people on this very board who do so.

Philosophy lead to God so it is impossible to build a disbelieve in God on this ground.

No it doesn't. There are philosophers who are atheists.

Philosophy is all about love for wisdom.

OK, so you know what the word means...

Wisdom goes well over the border of this physical reality.
Wisdom is not something physical-material or mental.
It goes a lot further into the inner self and in this place there is no question on who is who.

...but you don't know how to do it.

Let us agree that there are some atheists that disbelieve for other reason other than the scientific reasons.

Finally!

I haven't find any so far but let us assume that there are some.

Ohhh...

You presume Ben, do you? You are wrong again Ben.

The phrase 'I've just had my dinner' is usually a reference to physical ugliness, meaning 'such ugliness will make me vomit and I don't want to waste my food'. Since English is not your first language, I'll assume that you misused it and apologise for misrepresenting you. I'll also caution you to make sure you understand the meaning of vernacular phrases before using them.

I just can't stand that guy because all he says are untested theories that don't make any sense.

Untested? Untested?!? You really don't know what you're talking about, do you.

A waste of time Ben.
We have big bangs all the time.
That is not how the universe started.

The entry of this statement in to The Hall of Shame is enough for me.

Less repressed?
I would have thought that not to introduce s.hit in our body is all about wisdom?  

It's as unwise to deny oneself pleasure as it is to overindulge. You don't know that yet you claim that philosophy is your thing...

Comprendo, comprendo mate, don't worry about that.  

No, you don't understand. You make a deliberate point of avoiding understanding. I'm not going to fall for your condescending nonsense so stop it. When you're prepared to admit that you don't understand, I'll be prepared to explain it to you.

Ehm, Ben.
I think you confuse the nervous system with the onion mind.  

No, you confuse a purely physical set of processes with something 'supernatural' that you made up (or that you heard someone else make up and thought it sounded good).

Strange Ben but i don't feel any pain in my foot.  

What's strange is how easily one can become desensitised to one's own nonsense.

Of course Ben.
We shouldn't generalize considering that there may be 1 or 2 % of atheists that do not rely on physical science to disbelieve in God.  

So, because there might be few of them, you would discount them entirely? Even though their views may be valid? Even though they're people who have as much right to be heard and appreciated as the majority? If that's your idea of 'wisdom', I think I'd be better off staying away from your methodology of 'understanding'.

[Redbeard The Pink]

Rik, you have got to be the most inane little shit I have ever encountered on the internet, anywhere, ever. Ever.


To maybe put this in perspective for some of you, I used to be on the forum for RottenEggs.com. Rick soundly trumps that crowd. Let that sink in.

[Little Rik]

An absence of belief is different from not believing.

No... an absence of belief is what disbelief is. There is no semantic difference for you to use as an escape route. You're clearly incapable of admitting when you're wrong, even when the inadmission makes you look worse than being wrong in the first place. Why is that?

Wrong, wrong, wrong.
I can have an absence of belief because i do not know and i can not believe because i came across the issue and i do not believe in that.  

More confusion.
You just can not disbelieve on philosophical ground.

Yes you can. There are people on this very board who do so.

Wrong, wrong, wrong Ben.
A lot of people are adamant that they know what philosophy is all about but they clearly don't.
People confuse wisdom with being smart, intelligent, creative or other form of physical attributes but wisdom is very much different.
Wisdom is all about knowing how to proceed toward the goal of life.
Nothing more nothing less.
This is the original Greek meaning of philosophy.
Considering that in this physical universe there can not be real progress as the positive and negative always go hand in hand is therefore obvious that wisdom relate to spirituality and from here we can understand that atheism and wisdom are at the two extreme so it is impossible to disbelieve by relying
on wisdom.

Philosophy lead to God so it is impossible to build a disbelieve in God on this ground.

No it doesn't. There are philosophers who are atheists.

Wrong again Ben.
As explained above a lot of people confuse the word wisdom with other attributes.
It doesn't really matter whether you call yourself a philosopher or not.
I can call myself with any attribute i like to be called, that doesn't mean that i really am what i like to call myself.

Philosophy is all about love for wisdom.

OK, so you know what the word means...

Yes i do Ben.
What about you?  

Wisdom goes well over the border of this physical reality.
Wisdom is not something physical-material or mental.
It goes a lot further into the inner self and in this place there is no question on who is who.

...but you don't know how to do it.

To do what?
If you mean how to get more wisdom then i do know.
What about you Ben?  

Let us agree that there are some atheists that disbelieve for other reason other than the scientific reasons.

Finally!

I haven't find any so far but let us assume that there are some.

Ohhh...

How sad Ben!  

You presume Ben, do you? You are wrong again Ben.

The phrase 'I've just had my dinner' is usually a reference to physical ugliness, meaning 'such ugliness will make me vomit and I don't want to waste my food'. Since English is not your first language, I'll assume that you misused it and apologise for misrepresenting you. I'll also caution you to make sure you understand the meaning of vernacular phrases before using them.

Wrong again Ben.
You may be fed up or sickened by hearing something stupid just when you are enjoying or just after you enjoy your meal but is up to you to think the opposite.  

I just can't stand that guy because all he says are untested theories that don't make any sense.

Untested? Untested?!? You really don't know what you're talking about, do you.

Yes i do Ben.
As i previously said you don't have to look further than your body-mind to know how all the system works and That guy just did the opposite.
He look outside rather than inside.
Matter, water, light-energy, air, space, mind are all within us so by looking outside and not inside Hawking got all wrong.

A waste of time Ben.
We have big bangs all the time.
That is not how the universe started.

The entry of this statement in to The Hall of Shame is enough for me.

That is your problem that you will have to sort out sooner or later.  

Less repressed?
I would have thought that not to introduce s.hit in our body is all about wisdom?

It's as unwise to deny oneself pleasure as it is to overindulge. You don't know that yet you claim that philosophy is your thing...

Wrong again Ben.
To know what is good or bad for us you have to listen deep within.
But how can you listen deep within and knowing what is good or bad when you have NOT trained the art to go deep within?

Comprendo, comprendo mate, don't worry about that.

No, you don't understand. You make a deliberate point of avoiding understanding. I'm not going to fall for your condescending nonsense so stop it. When you're prepared to admit that you don't understand, I'll be prepared to explain it to you.

When i was in Fiji i was prepared to learn from a simple farmer with little intellectual knowledge.
He could climb a toll coconut tree to get fresh drinking water and grow food next to the rain forest.
I had and still have extreme respect for that guy but why should i have respect for intellectuals that still masturbate their brains in the futile search for the real solution to human emancipation?

Ehm, Ben.
I think you confuse the nervous system with the onion mind.  

No, you confuse a purely physical set of processes with something 'supernatural' that you made up (or that you heard someone else make up and thought it sounded good).

Your set of processes relate to the nervous system which has nothing to do with inner and outer mind.
So wrong once again Ben.

Strange Ben but i don't feel any pain in my foot.

What's strange is how easily one can become desensitised to one's own nonsense.

Smart answer Ben.
Unfortunately it doesn't relate to me.  

Of course Ben.
We shouldn't generalize considering that there may be 1 or 2 % of atheists that do not rely on physical science to disbelieve in God.  

So, because there might be few of them, you would discount them entirely? Even though their views may be valid? Even though they're people who have as much right to be heard and appreciated as the majority? If that's your idea of 'wisdom', I think I'd be better off staying away from your methodology of 'understanding'.

The problem Ben is that i never find any atheists that do not rely on science.  

[robvalue]

Think of a poker player who has been playing the same hand for several years. It's low stakes each round, but it's been going round and round the table for ages. Everyone has watched him already put in all millions of pounds, plus his car keys, the deeds to his house and even several of his limbs.

He has laid his cards on the table face down hours ago, he doesn't need to keep looking at them. He knows he has the winning hand.

It's back round to him again. Is he going to fish around in his pocket for anything that's going to keep him in the hand, or will he actually properly look at his hand again, to check if it's really as strong as he thinks?

[Little Rik]

Think of a poker player who has been playing the same hand for several years. It's low stakes each round, but it's been going round and round the table for ages. Everyone has watched him already put in all millions of pounds, plus his car keys, the deeds to his house and even several of his limbs.

He has laid his cards on the table face down hours ago, he doesn't need to keep looking at them. He knows he has the winning hand.

It's back round to him again. Is he going to fish around in his pocket for anything that's going to keep him in the hand, or will he actually properly look at his hand again, to check if it's really as strong as he thinks?

When you ride on top of the very best horse you are bound to win.  
And this very best horse called yoga has been a winner since Shiva
propose it to anyone who is willing to progress.  
Do you blame me for riding a winning horse?  

[Longhorn]

Philosophy is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there.

Religion is pretending to find it.

I'm stealing it.

[Little Rik]

Philosophy is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there.

Religion is pretending to find it.

I'm stealing it.

Are you sure that that quote is worth more than a cigarette butt?      

[Longhorn]

Can you explain why it's inaccurate?

[Homeless Nutter]

When you ride on top of the very best horse you are bound to win.  
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Shame your mount is a flea-ridden arthritic donkey and you're sitting on it backwards...