Can someone help me? I'm trying to open my mind to new ideas about Refugees

[DespondentFishdeathMasochismo]

Many of you have very strange notions of what Syrians are like on average. You seem to imagine them mostly as some form of less than human and primitive uneducated troglodyte taliban with worse than medieval mindsets. Weird. Well, I guess most of you have never seen one or talked to one

I saw a ted talk about a woman in Afghanistan I think it was, who started a secret school for Muslim women. She would have to lie to the Talaban, or Isis, or whatever they have over there, by saying she was teaching bible studies. She definitely has my respect. I don't think that everyone over there is uncivilized, I do sort of feel worried about one thing though. My right wing Christian friend (who I was ranting about on my very first post on this website) was showing me this video by an awful slime ball named Ben Shapiro. He was saying that there's polling in Muslim countries around the world that says the majority of them, or at least a large chunk of them support Sharia law and even Isis. So that's what I was concerned about, but I don't trust someone like Ben Shapiro to begin with, I'd never actually go out of my way to get statistics from someone like him. I do question it. I may come to some pretty heated contentions with some of the people in this thread, but to be honest I respect the majority of you as intelligent people.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Those polls are misrepresented by the folks who tout them, yes.

[DespondentFishdeathMasochismo]

White supremicists (sp) aren't refugees yet they terrorize innocents in this country all the time. In schools, churches and movie theaters.

Refugees coming to this country have to undergo two years worth of investigations and scrutiny before being allowed to live here.

But forget about all that for a second. Imagine youself, if you will, holding down a nice job. You have nice things and can afford to take your family nice places. You have a comfortable bed to sleep in as do your children. Now imagine that you wake up one day to find your neighborhood under attack by some people who tell your neighbor that if he doesn't bow down and worship their god and their ways, he will be killed. He refuses. The men shoot your neighbor.

You run back into your house, grab a backpack and fill it with some bread and two articles of clothing for you, your wife and your two kids. You also grab your cell phone and charger so that where ever you end up, you can at least call home. The backpack has to be light enough to carry in case you have to walk for days or weeks.

You get your wife, kids and backpack and flee to your parents house. They aren't there as the house has been blown apart. You find your mothers wedding ring attached to her finger but that is all of her you find.  You gather your family and seek help through someone who says they can smuggle you out of the country but it will cost you all the money you have. You hope it's enough.
You and your family are put into a crowded boat after walking for over a week. Your children are hungry and your wife hasn't eaten for two days.
You soon come to a place where you are greeted by people who give you warm clothes, some with name brands on the labels. You are given food and a place to sleep.

You can't understand a word anyone speaks but you know you are safe. You go outside to get a cell phone signal when some people walk by and say some mean things to you. Your whole world has been turned upside down in a matter of a few weeks and all you want to do is call home to see if any of your relatives are still alive.

This could be us one day. How would you feel if you were rejected by a country based on the actions of other people from your country?  You had nothing to do with their bombs and guns but you are being punished regardless. If we as a collective people do not start showing some compassion towards those fleeing from the terrorists in their own country, we cannot get upset if it happens to us and we are turned away.

So that's really what it's like over there? Man, I have been listening to my douche bag friend from Germany talk so much shit about Refugees. To think that we disagree about absolutely everything, yet I somehow let him get to my head about refugees. Tbh, I think most of the reason I feel opposed to refugees in the first place is because I've spent so much time listening to him bitch. He's gone to protests, he will tell me vehemently about how refugees are destroying the culture of Europe. It's all me me me me me with my friend. He doesn't even believe in multi culturalism. The bitch even calls me a faggot social marxist, but I let him get away with it because we're good chums and I don't take it as a personal attack as much as sort of rough house banter. To think that I took a single word of what he said about refugees to heart, without questioning the fuck out of it.

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Those polls are misrepresented by the folks who tout them, yes.

It's some bullshit that this guy sent me, who sends me the most fucking outrageous, questionable shit. I'm having a moment right now, trying to come to terms with the fact that I've actually been talking to this guy on a daily basis, I didn't have the intuition to step back and say, I should really listen to everything he says and think the opposite. I mean god damn, you'd blow your fucking brains out if you heard some of the shit this guy says, or posted on some of the forums where he discusses politics (not saying you'd literally kill yourself, but just trying to emphasize).

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I just messaged my friend about refugees. He says

>I support refugees
Stopped reading there
You jump this opinion more than an average fag jumps dick
They're not welcome here
This is how we welcome them here : )
https://www.rt.com/news/323523-netherlan...pig-heads/

Just to give you an idea of what this guy is like.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

There wouldn't be any refugees if the dummies in Washington hadn't fucked up their countries by overthrowing their governments.

[DespondentFishdeathMasochismo]

There wouldn't be any refugees if the dummies in Washington hadn't fucked up their countries by overthrowing their governments.

Oh come on. They were run by Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden who bombed the twin towers right? What would you have done differently?

[Thumpalumpacus]

White supremicists (sp) aren't refugees yet they terrorize innocents in this country all the time. In schools, churches and movie theaters.

Refugees coming to this country have to undergo two years worth of investigations and scrutiny before being allowed to live here.

But forget about all that for a second. Imagine youself, if you will, holding down a nice job. You have nice things and can afford to take your family nice places. You have a comfortable bed to sleep in as do your children. Now imagine that you wake up one day to find your neighborhood under attack by some people who tell your neighbor that if he doesn't bow down and worship their god and their ways, he will be killed. He refuses. The men shoot your neighbor.

You run back into your house, grab a backpack and fill it with some bread and two articles of clothing for you, your wife and your two kids. You also grab your cell phone and charger so that where ever you end up, you can at least call home. The backpack has to be light enough to carry in case you have to walk for days or weeks.

You get your wife, kids and backpack and flee to your parents house. They aren't there as the house has been blown apart. You find your mothers wedding ring attached to her finger but that is all of her you find.  You gather your family and seek help through someone who says they can smuggle you out of the country but it will cost you all the money you have. You hope it's enough.
You and your family are put into a crowded boat after walking for over a week. Your children are hungry and your wife hasn't eaten for two days.
You soon come to a place where you are greeted by people who give you warm clothes, some with name brands on the labels. You are given food and a place to sleep.

You can't understand a word anyone speaks but you know you are safe. You go outside to get a cell phone signal when some people walk by and say some mean things to you. Your whole world has been turned upside down in a matter of a few weeks and all you want to do is call home to see if any of your relatives are still alive.

This could be us one day. How would you feel if you were rejected by a country based on the actions of other people from your country?  You had nothing to do with their bombs and guns but you are being punished regardless. If we as a collective people do not start showing some compassion towards those fleeing from the terrorists in their own country, we cannot get upset if it happens to us and we are turned away.

So that's really what it's like over there? Man, I have been listening to my douche bag friend from Germany talk so much shit about Refugees. To think that we disagree about absolutely everything, yet I somehow let him get to my head about refugees. Tbh, I think most of the reason I feel opposed to refugees in the first place is because I've spent so much time listening to him bitch. He's gone to protests, he will tell me vehemently about how refugees are destroying the culture of Europe. It's all me me me me me with my friend. He doesn't even believe in multi culturalism. The bitch even calls me a faggot social marxist, but I let him get away with it because we're good chums and I don't take it as a personal attack as much as sort of rough house banter. To think that I took a single word of what he said about refugees to heart, without questioning the fuck out of it.

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Those polls are misrepresented by the folks who tout them, yes.

It's some bullshit that this guy sent me, who sends me the most fucking outrageous, questionable shit. I'm having a moment right now, trying to come to terms with the fact that I've actually been talking to this guy on a daily basis, I didn't have the intuition to step back and say, I should really listen to everything he says and think the opposite. I mean god damn, you'd blow your fucking brains out if you heard some of the shit this guy says, or posted on some of the forums where he discusses politics (not saying you'd literally kill yourself, but just trying to emphasize).

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I just messaged my friend about refugees. He says

>I support refugees
Stopped reading there
You jump this opinion more than an average fag jumps dick
They're not welcome here
This is how we welcome them here : )
https://www.rt.com/news/323523-netherlan...pig-heads/

Just to give you an idea of what this guy is like.

It's always good to question what you hear, in proportion to its extremity.

[rexbeccarox]

There wouldn't be any refugees if the dummies in Washington hadn't fucked up their countries by overthrowing their governments.

Oh come on. They were run by Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden who bombed the twin towers right? What would you have done differently?

Holy shit dude. You really need to read history.

[DespondentFishdeathMasochismo]

That's very wise Thumpalumpacus.

[Thumpalumpacus]

There wouldn't be any refugees if the dummies in Washington hadn't fucked up their countries by overthrowing their governments.

Oh come on. They were run by Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden who bombed the twin towers right? What would you have done differently?

OBL didn't run any nations. Saddam was a cruel bastard, but he certainly provided stability.

I wouldn't have invaded Iraq, had the decision been mine.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

There wouldn't be any refugees if the dummies in Washington hadn't fucked up their countries by overthrowing their governments.

Oh come on. They were run by Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden who bombed the twin towers right? What would you have done differently?

It was our previous meddling in those countries that funded and supported those people.  Now the dummies are creating gangs a lot worse.