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Do you think there's more of a "deeper" reason for the GOP to hate Obama so much
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RE: Do you think there's more of a "deeper" reason for the GOP to hate Obama...
I'll go with "he's black" until a better answer comes along.
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#12
RE: Do you think there's more of a "deeper" reason for the GOP to hate Obama so much
Obamas administration makes good and bad policies as do all presidents administrations but its indisputable that the policies have gotten more and more neo-con as time has gone on. One of the most disturbing is our right to privacy and make no mistake; that has global ramifications.
Just because Jon Stewart gets invited to talk to the president does not mean the presidents policies are democratic *or* that Jon Stewart is in anyway funny.
Seriously. His entire routine is based on people laughing out of agreement. Thats not comedy, thats circle jerking.
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#13
RE: Do you think there's more of a "deeper" reason for the GOP to hate Obama...
(December 22, 2015 at 4:11 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: ...
Just because Jon Stewart gets invited to talk to the president does not mean the presidents policies are democratic *or* that Jon Stewart is in anyway funny.
Seriously. His entire routine is based on people laughing out of agreement. Thats not comedy, thats circle jerking.

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RE: Do you think there's more of a "deeper" reason for the GOP to hate Obama...
(December 22, 2015 at 4:12 pm)TheRealJoeFish Wrote:
(December 22, 2015 at 4:11 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: ...
Just because Jon Stewart gets invited to talk to the president does not mean the presidents policies are democratic *or* that Jon Stewart is in anyway funny.
Seriously. His entire routine is based on people laughing out of agreement. Thats not comedy, thats circle jerking.

Which feels awesome

Not if the person next to you has visible eczema.
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RE: Do you think there's more of a "deeper" reason for the GOP to hate Obama...
(December 22, 2015 at 6:09 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Maybe it's because




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The Israelis tried to sabotage him by claiming that he was a muslim and not a real American.  The rednecks ate it up.
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RE: Do you think there's more of a "deeper" reason for the GOP to hate Obama...
(December 22, 2015 at 3:44 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: The thing about this, is that all of it can be reversed politically. When there is a Republican president in office, the Democrats hate on him and make up stuff and insults and draw hitler mustaches on him etc etc. It goes both ways.

But it doesn't go both ways evenly.  The democrats won't stand in the way of programs that help people just because the republicans authored them.  (Many republicans used to be the same way; now that would get them voted out ASAP.)

Comedians and many democrats (myself included) criticized W Bush for being stupid because he did not do well in school - which he didn't.  The man's use of English certainly didn't do anything to change the impression.  Like so many in the republican clown car he also denied the science behind climate change and held to a simpleton's form of religion.  This was justified criticism.  

He was also criticized for not achieving anything on his own merits - and he didn't.  He was born into wealth.  He was a drug addict who got religion and wanted to redeem himself by steering the nation like his daddy.  This was a warranted criticism.  

He was also criticized for being a classist.  He made no secret that he saw the 1% as his constituency.  He did plenty to weaken the social safety net - which was already a joke among developed nations.  He was fine with throwing our young military people into harms way, never having been in harms way himself because of his family's connections.  Again, deserved criticism.

Compare any of that to what Obama is accused of.  That he is a foreigner, un-American and most importantly BLACK.  It is not tit for tat.  Not by a long shot.
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RE: Do you think there's more of a "deeper" reason for the GOP to hate Obama...
(December 22, 2015 at 10:17 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote:
(December 22, 2015 at 3:44 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: The thing about this, is that all of it can be reversed politically. When there is a Republican president in office, the Democrats hate on him and make up stuff and insults and draw hitler mustaches on him etc etc. It goes both ways.

But it doesn't go both ways evenly.  The democrats won't stand in the way of programs that help people just because the republicans authored them.  (Many republicans used to be the same way; now that would get them voted out ASAP.)

Comedians and many democrats (myself included) criticized W Bush for being stupid because he did not do well in school - which he didn't.  The man's use of English certainly didn't do anything to change the impression.  Like so many in the republican clown car he also denied the science behind climate change and held to a simpleton's form of religion.  This was justified criticism.  

He was also criticized for not achieving anything on his own merits - and he didn't.  He was born into wealth.  He was a drug addict who got religion and wanted to redeem himself by steering the nation like his daddy.  This was a warranted criticism.  

He was also criticized for being a classist.  He made no secret that he saw the 1% as his constituency.  He did plenty to weaken the social safety net - which was already a joke among developed nations.  He was fine with throwing our young military people into harms way, never having been in harms way himself because of his family's connections.  Again, deserved criticism.

Compare any of that to what Obama is accused of.  That he is a foreigner, un-American and most importantly BLACK.  It is not tit for tat.  Not by a long shot.

I think you are trivializing the criticism that Bush received. It was not that mild, I saw protest signs with a picture of him with a Hitler mustache regularly while he was in office. The Bush is a Nazi accusation was thrown around with frightening and unthinking regularity. People would say anything and everything about him, including a frighteningly large percentage of people who say he orchestrated 9/11. Literally everything that he did was crucified. I'm no fan of Bush, I think he was a terrible president, but if you think that if that's all that was thrown at him, you weren't paying attention.
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RE: Do you think there's more of a "deeper" reason for the GOP to hate Obama...
(December 22, 2015 at 3:27 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:
(December 22, 2015 at 6:09 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Maybe it's because




Boru

Maybe for some people. I don't really think Obama gets particularly more or less flak than Clinton did.

I think he gets more, when you consider birthers and and those who call him Barack Hussein Obama (emphasis in original) -- both clearly subtle appeals to bigotry -- whereas Clinton's pecadilloes didn't seem to outweigh his ability to get shit done with a Congress that was split or oppositional throughout most of his term. Granted, he had the gov't shutdown, but otherwise, didn't have Congressmen calling him a liar during his State of the Union address, and that sort of thing.

The invective has ratcheted up in this country over the last twenty years, from both parties.

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RE: Do you think there's more of a "deeper" reason for the GOP to hate Obama so much
Obama has made some very bad decisions, especially on foreign policy. Of course, the Republicans don't stop and think: "Perhaps we're the main reason people all around the world think that all Americans are stupid". There's very little democracy in America compared to other Western countries, which is, of course, ironic. If the Founding Fathers were alive today I'm sure they would all be very sad at the state of things.

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RE: Do you think there's more of a "deeper" reason for the GOP to hate Obama so much
Because he is black duh

Then you have someone like i don't know Trump who is by definition a republicunt who is openly racist
and kinda throwing the whole republican base out there on the gallows. Then have rest who are like nuh..uh..
were are not like Trump. But again black guy in office makes things better and healthcare reform.
Again they don't like any of it because he is a black guy doing great things.
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