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For those who want proof of the exodus
#81
RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
This is getting fucking Exodiculous.
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#82
RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
(December 20, 2015 at 12:19 pm)Drich Wrote: All you need do for proof is A/S/K as out line in Luke 11. And Christ Himself promised to provide proof!

And as a bonus, no negative response results would ever be accepted by Drich because he will always excuse his god's absence by claiming insincerity just like Peanut's Linus in the great pumpkin patch.

Evidently you have to claim certainty of god's existence before god will come out of his hiding place now, despite this not being the case in the bible. Guess jesus got kinda skittish after that ol' crucifiction thingy...
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#83
RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
(December 23, 2015 at 5:56 pm)Brakeman Wrote:
(December 20, 2015 at 12:19 pm)Drich Wrote: All you need do for proof is A/S/K as out line in Luke 11. And Christ Himself promised to provide proof!

And as a bonus, no negative response results would ever be accepted by Drich because he will always excuse his god's absence by claiming insincerity just like Peanut's Linus in the great pumpkin patch.

Evidently you have to claim certainty of god's existence before god will come out of his hiding place now, despite this not being the case in the bible. Guess jesus got kinda skittish after that ol' crucifiction thingy...


And on the reverse side.

If someone believes, but misses one of the steps of A/S/K, Yahweh will not provide proof. 

So, here we have a believer that wants god to provide proof, but because they might have not been educated correctly, or possibly misinterpreted the passages in Luke that Dritch mentions, Yahweh looks down on this believer and says, "that faithful believer really wants me to provide proof, and he is worthy in every way. Too f'n bad he asked and seeked, but did not knock. I have the power to proved the proof he is looking for, and I can see he is sincere and serious, but, damn...that one missed step".

It's been a long time since I have read the Bible, but if my memory severs me, Saul did no A/S/K when he had his Damascus road experience.

Why did Saul deserve his Damascus road experience, but none of us do?

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#84
RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
(December 20, 2015 at 12:19 pm)Drich Wrote:
(December 20, 2015 at 12:12 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: We're still waiting on confirmation of God's existence.  Debating minutia and folderol that He supposedly was involved in 13,699,996,300 years after the Big Bang is putting the cart before the horse.

Good new voltron!
All you need do for proof is A/S/K as out line in Luke 11. And Christ Himself promised to provide proof!



So, Dritch, if a Christian claims that Christ showed them proof, but they actually never completed A/S/K, does that mean that Christ did not actually provide them with proof, and their claims are imaginary?

Is it ever possible for Christ to provide proof to someone without the person using A/S/K?

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#85
RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
Ref. Post #76: 500 miles of BS.
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#86
RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
So... was the OP mistitled or something? I'm confused. Where's the "proof" exactly?
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.
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#87
RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
Actually the OP sowed the seeds of its own dismissal.  Real scholars speak in terms of "evidence."  Assholes, like drippy and his pals, insist that they have "proof."  They do not.
And they never will.
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#88
RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
(December 20, 2015 at 11:35 am)Drich Wrote: http://m.imdb.com/title/tt3464018/

This one can be found on Netflix.
I know it's a tall ask to ask anyone to watch hour and half two hour movie for the sake of debate. That's not what I'm doing here I am providing a resource for those who want an honest look at what evidence their is for the exodus. In this film every major point before and after the exodus is examined and what they have found out there in the sand.

I say an honest look because this the evidence and theory that binds the evidence has holes. Those holes are identified and discussed. ultimatly it is up to you to look at all the evidence and decide for yourself.

I watched this documentary twice over the holiday weekend.

Very interesting. Thanks for pointing it out.
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#89
RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
Your life must really suck. Once, maybe. Twice in the same weekend, hard to imagine.
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#90
RE: For those who want proof of the exodus
The flood never happened. It is a myth, humans simply mistook local flooding as the entirety of the planet.

If you watch the entire COSMOS series, humans have always independently gap filled coming up with gap answers. There are older flood myths. Humans also had their independent gap answers about astrology, and fear of comets. Native Americans have their own first person motifs. The Mayans had their own myths about end times. Hindus are much older and also have their myths about all aspects of life an nature.

Humans gap fill and Christianity is no different.
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